Beige G3 Crashing...

[Ryoohki]

well everything was going good with 10.3 till i started installing a security update the computer froze and wouldn't boot back into OS X

Another problem started this time around the os x boot screen with the apple isn't displaying but the display isn't in sleep mode(The power light on the monitor is green not amber) but the display turns on once the loading window starts. i didn't get a chance to try the terminal command.

Ideas anyone?

 

[Quadraman]

well everything was going good with 10.3 till i started installing a security update the computer froze and wouldn't boot back into OS X
Another problem started this time around the os x boot screen with the apple isn't displaying but the display isn't in sleep mode(The power light on the monitor is green not amber) but the display turns on once the loading window starts. i didn't get a chance to try the terminal command.

Ideas anyone?

The beige is officially unsupported under 10.3, so the security update may have had something to do with it. You may have to find a workaround if you want to install the update.

 

[madmax_2069]

the display remaining in a sleep like state wile booting can be fixed. in open firmware its normlly set to use a different output thats no longer installed, in xpostfacto there is settings to choose what output (normally the monitor/video being used) you need to make sure that the proper output is selected. that should cure your booting with no video.

check in ASP in OS X and OS 9 to see if the system is seeing a ghost video card, sometimes the systems will see a ghost video card and OF will try to use that as the output for OF instead of the onboard. usually you can get into OF and reset it and it will start working again.

to get into OF press and hold command + option + O + F

type init-nvram (press enter/return) some later Rom versions its reset-nvram

type set-defaults (press enter/return)

type reset-all (press enter/return)

after every entry after you press enter you should see OK if it says unknown work or somethig to that matter (mostly with the init-nvram or reset-nvram comands)

that is one out of a few ways to reset, another is to hold the CUDA for a few seconds ( i normally hold for 15 - 30 seconds)

or you can go and buy a Radeon 7000 PCI and it will fix it.

and yea that link to the apple docs is the correct work around but however there is steps you need to take if your doing it in panther and tiger.

only do the terminal commands if you have a Mac PCI video card

in panther and tiger you need to install fresh and do the fix (terminal commands both sets) then reboot, you must have a second Mac compatible video card to use cause the onboard video will be software disabled and you will not see anything when you restart after you do the fix.

then with the PCI video card (the only screen output you will be able to use) you install all of the updates and reboot, and on the reboot the onboard video will be re-enabled and will not black out again.

 

[register]

xpostfacto removes the 8gb limit if the drives larger then 8gb. if you was to try to install OS X (testing using 10.2) on the 120gb hdd without xpostfacto it will not allow you to select where to install to. with xpostfacto (version for tiger) you can install on the 120gb HDD.

xpostfacto uses a partition with a Mac OS 9 installation in an appropriate place to work around the 8 GB limit. This installation may be small, just sacrifice a few hundred MB from a large hd for this purpose, and you need not to worry about partition size and location for any other installations, Classic or X. It allows to boot the beige G3 from a FireWire attached drive, also (this might be worth a try regarding hd performance). My beige G3 uses the onboard video as well as the Radeon without any problems in 10.2.8, but without the Quartz Extreme hack. DVD playback works fine even in a window drawn to fill both screens. If anything goes wrong, you can easily fall back to the helper installation of OS 9 by depressing the option key during startup.

 

[Ryoohki]

Alright I am posting from the Beige now all problems have been solved.

madmax_2069 thanks for the suggestions tried them all none solved my problem even the cuda reset. :lol: But i did get it working by installing my Nvidia GeForce MX 100/200 PCI card which isn't a mac compatible card but it made the computer realize it should be using the onboard video on startup. [] ]'>

Thanks everyone for your help getting the computer running at 100%

 

[madmax_2069]

Alright I am posting from the Beige now all problems have been solved.madmax_2069 thanks for the suggestions tried them all none solved my problem even the cuda reset. :lol: But i did get it working by installing my Nvidia GeForce MX 100/200 PCI card which isn't a mac compatible card but it made the computer realize it should be using the onboard video on startup. [] ]'>

Thanks everyone for your help getting the computer running at 100%

what OS do you have running on it so far. have you ran into the black or blue screen after a wile of operating did you try the terminal commands shown on Apples site.

 

[Ryoohki]

well i have OS X 10.3.9 on it now with an OS 9 complement.

I tried apple's terminal commands after making a backup of the file that the commands were supposed to change which was a good thing to because i needed to copy it back from os 9 because there was no video out

but the black screen stopped for some reason not sure what.

Probably because i replaced the HD and started using the patched rage pro option in PostXfacto.