2 Port SATA PCI Controller Adapter Card (Support OS 9)
For Apple PowerMac G3 / G4 / G5
www.local338shop.com
Looking for something for my blue and white ... anyone tried this card? Prefer to run OS 8.6.
Anyone tried the NanoTech Sata PCI card?
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Looking for something for my blue and white ... anyone tried this card? Prefer to run OS 8.6.
MacOS works well enough as far as I can tell.
But it's dual-boot NetBSD 10.1 which crashes when I run rndctl -L and rndctl -S.
However, it doesn't crash running these commands on a RAM disk.
I also tried running the hard disk off the CDROM's IDE port, which I gather is not UDMA(?). And the problem seems to be resolved when the HDD is on the CD IDE port.
I've been messing with NetBSD kernel configuration options to disable UDMA but I'm not finished with this project yet.
Thus I've been looking into alternatives to the onboard IDE controller, such as a PCI IDE controller like the Acard 6XXXM cards or the Sonnet Trio/Tempo. Either IDE or SATA. I have an IDE drive. I'd have to buy a SATA drive were I to try a SATA card but that's OK.
I also looked at SCSI. I have a narrow SCSI PCI card in the Blue and White. I'm quite fond of SCSI having used it extensively in the 1990s and early 2000s, but nice narrow SCSI isn't exactly easy to find these days, and its expensive. But there's ZuluSCSI which uses an SD card and is fast SCSI (10 megabytes/second) which is slower than the B&W's Ultra ATA/33 but I could probably live with that.
I'm just pondering options right now.
But it's dual-boot NetBSD 10.1 which crashes when I run rndctl -L and rndctl -S.
However, it doesn't crash running these commands on a RAM disk.
I also tried running the hard disk off the CDROM's IDE port, which I gather is not UDMA(?). And the problem seems to be resolved when the HDD is on the CD IDE port.
I've been messing with NetBSD kernel configuration options to disable UDMA but I'm not finished with this project yet.
Thus I've been looking into alternatives to the onboard IDE controller, such as a PCI IDE controller like the Acard 6XXXM cards or the Sonnet Trio/Tempo. Either IDE or SATA. I have an IDE drive. I'd have to buy a SATA drive were I to try a SATA card but that's OK.
I also looked at SCSI. I have a narrow SCSI PCI card in the Blue and White. I'm quite fond of SCSI having used it extensively in the 1990s and early 2000s, but nice narrow SCSI isn't exactly easy to find these days, and its expensive. But there's ZuluSCSI which uses an SD card and is fast SCSI (10 megabytes/second) which is slower than the B&W's Ultra ATA/33 but I could probably live with that.
I'm just pondering options right now.
Initially I was a bit skeptical of that shop name, as it has that "generic scam shop name" vibe, but it seems they do sell the same items on eBay under that name:
That said, you're effectively paying $45 for them to flash a generic Chinese SiI3112 SATA card with the Classic Mac OS capable firmware, as these cards are less than $15 on eBay:
The only caveat is needing to flash it yourself, though this can be done within Mac OS these days with the custom ROM and patched flashing utility courtesy of @dosdude1:
68kmla.org
The card does need to have an EEPROM that only needs 5V for programming and erasing, which a lot of EEPROMs do but some don't, and you don't necessarily know what you'd get.
Such an EEPROM would have to be replaced, which involves SMD soldering.
So the preflashed card is "safer", but you're paying quite the premium for it.
I would definitely suggest going through eBay instead of their own store, to have extra buyer's protection, just in case.
EDIT: You could also try getting a quality Adaptec 1210AS SiI3112 based card, for probably less than the preflashed generic SiI3112 card.
You do need to disable or remove a small SOIC8 chip, but otherwise should be flashable using the utility.
If you are comfortable soldering, you could put a solder blob across the four legs on both sides of the chip, then heat those until both are molten simultaneously, allowing you to pull it off.
But you could also just lift pin 8 (VCC), or even use thin side cutters (the type used to cut leads after soldering) and just snip that pin, or even just all pins to remove it entirely, any of that should do the trick.
See also @Carlito's posts about this:
68kmla.org
The Adaptec card is of much better quality, so this can be worth the hassle.
I have one myself and it works great, all the way down to Mac OS 7.5 (the earliest Classic Mac OS available on PCI Macs).
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That said, you're effectively paying $45 for them to flash a generic Chinese SiI3112 SATA card with the Classic Mac OS capable firmware, as these cards are less than $15 on eBay:
2-Channel Array Card PCI SATA 150MB/s SIL3112 Controller Card for WINS 2000/XP | eBay
Interface: SATA. Item Type: Array card. Independent 256-byte FIFO in per serial ATA channel is for host read and write, supporting for two independent serial ATA channels. causing the item not fitting your need.
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The only caveat is needing to flash it yourself, though this can be done within Mac OS these days with the custom ROM and patched flashing utility courtesy of @dosdude1:
Silicon Image SIL3112 Flashing: Easier Way Using flashrom
Bloody hell @dosdude1 you're good at this. Nicely done.
68kmla.org
The card does need to have an EEPROM that only needs 5V for programming and erasing, which a lot of EEPROMs do but some don't, and you don't necessarily know what you'd get.
Such an EEPROM would have to be replaced, which involves SMD soldering.
So the preflashed card is "safer", but you're paying quite the premium for it.
I would definitely suggest going through eBay instead of their own store, to have extra buyer's protection, just in case.
EDIT: You could also try getting a quality Adaptec 1210AS SiI3112 based card, for probably less than the preflashed generic SiI3112 card.
You do need to disable or remove a small SOIC8 chip, but otherwise should be flashable using the utility.
If you are comfortable soldering, you could put a solder blob across the four legs on both sides of the chip, then heat those until both are molten simultaneously, allowing you to pull it off.
But you could also just lift pin 8 (VCC), or even use thin side cutters (the type used to cut leads after soldering) and just snip that pin, or even just all pins to remove it entirely, any of that should do the trick.
See also @Carlito's posts about this:
Silicon Image SIL3112 Flashing: Easier Way Using flashrom
Mine is am28f010. I'm going to try directly programming it when I get the chance since trying with flashrom ended with it unable to find the rom chip. AM28F010 requires 12V for programming, so it can't be done on the card itself. It must be done externally using an EEPROM programmer, unfortunately.
68kmla.org
The Adaptec card is of much better quality, so this can be worth the hassle.
I have one myself and it works great, all the way down to Mac OS 7.5 (the earliest Classic Mac OS available on PCI Macs).
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It's the running NetBSD that maybe untested.MacOS works well enough as far as I can tell.
But it's dual-boot NetBSD 10.1 which crashes when I run rndctl -L and rndctl -S.
However, it doesn't crash running these commands on a RAM disk.
I also tried running the hard disk off the CDROM's IDE port, which I gather is not UDMA(?). And the problem seems to be resolved when the HDD is on the CD IDE port.
I've been messing with NetBSD kernel configuration options to disable UDMA but I'm not finished with this project yet.
Thus I've been looking into alternatives to the onboard IDE controller, such as a PCI IDE controller like the Acard 6XXXM cards or the Sonnet Trio/Tempo. Either IDE or SATA. I have an IDE drive. I'd have to buy a SATA drive were I to try a SATA card but that's OK.
I also looked at SCSI. I have a narrow SCSI PCI card in the Blue and White. I'm quite fond of SCSI having used it extensively in the 1990s and early 2000s, but nice narrow SCSI isn't exactly easy to find these days, and its expensive. But there's ZuluSCSI which uses an SD card and is fast SCSI (10 megabytes/second) which is slower than the B&W's Ultra ATA/33 but I could probably live with that.
I'm just pondering options right now.
I bought one of these cards on eBay pre-flashed and it had a mod to the voltage IC that was supposed to make it compatible with the PowerMac G4 Quicksilver.
The mod made the card unstable and unusable in any computer. I ended up replacing the voltage IC and it works well now, it just won't work in a G4 Quicksilver.
Buying the generic card and flashing it yourself is appealing, but you never know if the generic card is going to have an EEPROM that is compatible with the flashing of the Mac FCode ROM.
We could go on for pages about all the crazy ins and outs of the Sil3112 cards, but unless someone has tried it in a B&W with NetBSD we really can't offer much advice, you'll just have to order one and give it a go.
Is the Rabbit Hole Card compatible with OS9, site doesn't say?
It, as well RHC's own SiI3112 card, does not ship with the Macintosh firmware.
You will have to run the patched SeriTek Flasher provided by @dosdude1 to flash it.
