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Anyone have a copy of "AppleTalk Phase 2 Protocol Specification" (C0144LL/A)?

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See title. This was available thru APDA as part number C0144LL/A, but doesn't seem to have been archived. It covers nitty gritty AppleTalk networking details that aren't covered in "Inside AppleTalk" and is considered an addendum to that book. Apple's APDA listing says that IA 2nd Edition incorporates all the information, while old usenet posts say there is stuff missing and only found in that document.
 
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Unfortunately this was a document you had to pay $20 for. Apple didn't seem to release it digitally later on. Quite a bit of APDA documentation is likely lost because of this. Maybe @al kossow knows of someone who might have this in their "stacks" somewhere?

The bit of information I'm looking for is the Apple documented procedure for boot strapping a non-seed router on an extended AppleTalk network. I'm also hoping it fills in some noticeable gaps in some topics in Inside AppleTalk.
 
Bet you some guy on VCF has one. Might be single digit copies of that worldwide: that's a very specific thing to ask the ol' Dogcow building boys for.
 
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boot strapping a non-seed router on an extended AppleTalk network
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Could you maybe reverse-engineer the behaviour from a network of several Macs running AIR (which we can consider as reference implementation)

Or reverse-engineer from the Mac OS X AppleTalk stack?
 
Thats... promising news.

I have a general idea of how the bootstrap should work, mostly be monitoring what my Fastpath and netatalk do when starting up. Maybe top secret information like what off-the-shelf transformer to use for LocalTalk will be found.
 
..and if we are wishing for other things, there is always the 67 page "Print Spooling in an AppleTalk Network" APDA product # A7Z0013. Although I really don't need it since Adobe documented most everything the LaserWriter driver does.
 
So no luck on the document so far, but Alan Oppenheimer did respond
"I have lots of other documents, and if I ever retire, maybe I'll organize them (I gave a bunch to Stanford many years ago too). Right now I'm way too busy (big intro next month; see artauthority.museum). It would be fun to have an AppleTalk zoom this summer sometime."

So, if he finds the time for a zoom meeting I'll let the group know and hopefully he'll be able to answer some LocalTalk questions for all of you.
 
Looks like a MacWrite file. Imported into Word 5.1, exported as PDF, then optimized for Acrobat 5. This one is December of '89, the other one is August of '89.
 

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@NJRoadfan did you ever find this? I found some more information on the CDSN Autumn 92 CD in the Seminars folder under both AppleTlk Fundamentals and Lan Minds. Still need to find the program for Creator Type = PANT, File Type = PNTG. Google says a program called FullPaint, but I can only find version 1.0. For the rest you will will need MS Word, and MacDraw
 

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About every 6 months or so I'll search the web again, because I'm curious too. It's most likely a 25-ish page thing or less with a summary of Inside AppleTalk, Second Edition.

That information is mildly interesting but doesn't go over the stuff a Phase 2 spec document would. An example of one that would be the AFP 2.1 specification document.

Think the only way we'll find it is a lucky ebay find. The odds are pretty low right now that anybody even has that document, as apparently only one person ever listed something like that, and it was on VCF, and nobody bought it.
 
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