Any SCSI experts? Need help getting a SCSI scanner to connect to G4.

Apologies if you are seeing this post in multiple forums. I'm cross posting in a few places since I'm looking for some very niche expertise:

Any SCSI experts around that can try and help me out?

What I'm trying to do is connect a Minolta Dimage Scan Elite F2900 film scanner to a G4 Powermac and use it in OS 9.2.2. So far I have what I think is a working scanner, and a working SCSI PCI card but can't get the scanner to show up.

The scanner has a Centronics, aka SCSI-1, aka CN-50 port and a DB25 Port. It has dip switches for selecting the SCSI ID and turning on/off the internal terminator.

I purchased a ATTO UL3D SCSI PCI card that had previously been used in a Powermac, so it should have the correct firmware. In OS9's system profile I can see it as a SCSI card with v. 1.66 firmware, which is the latest firmware I can find. I selected this card because it is one that is supposed to work in both OS9 and OSX. It's product manual says that it is compatible with SCSI-3, SCSI-2 and SCSI-1 devices and backward compatible with Ultra2, Ultra/WIDE, Fast/WIDE and Narrow SCSI devices

The ATTO UL3D uses a much more recent SCSI connector than the scanner. It's a VHDCI, aka SCSI-5. So I purchased a VHDCI to CN-50 cable from IEC.net, the only company that seemed to actually have such a cable in-stock (or maybe made on demand).

With everything connected up, I boot up the scanner before turning on the Mac. OS9 is slower to boot now which makes me think the SCSI card is looking for devices. However I see no new SCSI devices in the system profiler.

I downloaded ATTO Express Tools 2.82 from the Macintosh Garden. It shows my SCSI card but doesn't show anything for any of the SCSI IDs. It's like the scanner isn't there. The photoshop plug-in and the scanner software that came with the scanner also act like its not connected. I've tried a couple different SCSI IDs on the scanner.

The scanner was new-old-stock and looks brand new. It turns on and makes the lights and whirring sounds I would expect from it.

I'm not sure what else to try. Maybe:
-Trying the SCSI card in other PCI slots?
-Getting a completely different SCSI card even though the one I have should be backwards compatible? The manual for the Scanner recommends the Adaptec PowerDomain 2940UW, PowerDomain 2940U2W, PowerDomain 2930U, or SCSI Card 2906.
-Trying a different cable, like going from CN50 to SCS-2 and then to VHDCI. Or finding a chain of cables to connect to the DB25 port instead of the CN50 port.

Is there any secret SCSI sauce that I'm missing here?

My boot disc is running off a PCI card based SATA controller with an SSD, which presents itself as SCSI in OS9. I don't know if this could somehow be getting in the way of a "real" SCSI card?

I'm 100% brand new to SCSI. I started with macs right as OS9 was transitioning to OSX so I have always been spoiled by how USB and FireWire "Just Works."
 
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You can get a terminator for the DB25 port and not use the internal terminator.

db25 scsi terminator.webp

USE ID 2,4,5 OR 6 for the scanner SCSI ID.

Most likely you just have terminator issues. You will need software/drivers for the film scanner (which you have).
 
Thanks for the advice. I have tried SCSI ID 5 and 1. 5 was the scanner's default. I knew to avoid 0 and 7 but will also try 2 and 4.

I thought both the card and scanner provided internal termination but this is all new to me. I'll order a DB25 terminator to try. In that case I would turn off the scanner's internal terminator using the dip switches, right? Do I need to do any termination on the SCSI card side? It has 2 internal and 2 external ports.

What is the difference between active and passive terminators? Do I need one vs the other?
 
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