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I'm amazed notebooks were as popular as they were 10 years ago. They were more expensive *and* slower. Not to mention the limited screen resolutions. But yeah... talk about depreciation. It's a testament to the fact that a computer, even a very expensive one, can't outrun the fact that it's...

I've wanted a 3400c for years, but never saw one on eBay at a price I was willing to pay for something that would be relegated to tinker-thing. But an hour or so ago, an auction went up for a very nice looking 3400c for a Buy It Now of $24.99 w/ shipping. And I used the Live 25% Cashback promo...

That, given the questions of his that I underlined in my reply, he doesn't know much about the machines and thus shouldn't be commenting on their worth. So why are you giving me a rundown? I've owned several PTPs, thanks. ::)

Damn you!!!!

...do you know what a PowerTower Pro is?

$100 is a bit much for a fully functional Quicksilver? I must be behind the times...

But if you're looking to upgrade an older machine, especially going to the extent of upgrading the entire drive system and buying a controller card, chances are you aren't going to do it with thrown away parts. S-ATA cards are cheap. Large S-ATA drives can be had for under $50 from places like...

Lucky you. It's been longer than I can remember since I found any dumped Mac stuff. :(

If somebody is looking to upgrade an older Mac and doesn't already have an ATA-100/133 setup, I think it'd be stupid to pursue one over an S-ATA setup. We're at the point where S-ATA is both cheaper and more widespread.

You mean a drive that would be interchangeable between two desktops? Any Apple OEM SCSI CD should work in the Windows environment, assuming the Windows machine supports SCSI. But why?

I've only been here for a week or so, but I already think there's too much Intel conversation going on. Given the subject of the forum, even PowerPC discussion should be pushing it. If this forum is going to be about all Macs, it has might as well be merged with the PPC MLA forum and given a...

That's a pretty broad statement considering how many different architectures have been sold under the Celeron name. For the past few years, Celerons have been excellent budget processors.

OOOOH NOOOZZZZ!!!!111 My very essence... cutdown by a 17 year old with too many computers. I shall never recover.

I think the ATA controller problem became such a hoopla among well-versed Mac users that it evolved into something of a 'Rev A Plague' for less knowledgeable users who didn't understand that the addition of an ATA controller card (something that should be added to an A or B machine anyways) made...

Well... by adding an ATA card, you've mitigated the most prominent issue of the Rev A B&W. So why is it any surprise that the machine works well?

Major city power failure > Hiccup on a small internet message board. I knight thee Drama Queen. Go outside. Breathe fresh air. Get a life. It helps. :beige:

http://xlr8yourmac.com/systems/MacinPC_ATX_case/index.htm

...why?

You can always do a Full-ATX conversion.

Seconded.