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Upgrading a 575 and maybe my 580

AusNick

Well-known member
Folks,

I'm going to be doing some upgrades on a mate's LC 575 at some point. Bit more RAM if it needs it, If I have spares i want to part with, and larger capacity hard drive and a faster CD-ROM drive.

But before I plunge in, I thought I'd research…

Well, I thought I'd try and research…

Damn the Apple knowledgebase is frustrating.

I can't find specs on the LC 575 power supply anywhere, I don't want to upgrade the thing only to have the smoke escape.

And then trying to find the SCSI transfer speed for this model, there is a tech note that lists some models, but it's not all that clear.

This job isn't going to happen for a while, so I'm not that fussed about finding the info right now, but it would be good to know. The information from Apple, and even the Developer Notes is patchy at best.

But it got me thinking about my Performa 580, it's sweet at the moment, but I wouldn't mind making it sweeter, more RAM (it's got the Apple maximum 52 MB), but I've heard some models of this vintage can take 64 and 128 meg sticks. I also swapped out the original 4x CD-ROM for an 8x, which made a hell of a difference when installing software and running some games. But at the time I thought for some reason the max. transfer rate was 1.5 MB/sec, and so I thought well, an 8x is as close as I'm going to get.

Now on closer inspection of the tech note, I found I had been looking at the wrong model (the 550), and that the SCSI chip for the 475 may have been closer to the mark, with a DTR of 5 MB/sec, so the machine could take a 24x drive in theory, but, not knowing how hard I could push the power supply, no way would I be willing to try it, unless I could find a faster drive that could match the power requirements of the current one.

When I brought the machine back from the dead, and upgraded it from it's stock config. I made sure to try and swap like for like with regard to power requirements, playing it safe as I didn't have the information handy that I do now.

I can live without a high speed CD-ROM, but the RAM upgrade would be cool if the model can take it.

Current specs are as follows…

Performa 580CD

68LC040 @ 33 MHZ

52 MB RAM (Maximum, but it it?)

1.6 GB Hard Drive (Partitioned, running OS 8.1)

8x CD-ROM Drive (Upgraded from 4x)

28.8 CommSlot MODEM

10BaseT PDS Ethernet

AV Input Card

All I need is a suitable external video connector kit and I'd have every slot filled, it'd be a useless upgrade though. Given the age of the machine, it'd be getting a little frail, I think. But it'd be nice to kick the RAM up a bit, even if it's just for bragging rights, be nice to have 84 or 148 megs of RAM.

It handles 8.1 fine, not quite as snappy as 7.5.5, but quite acceptable. One gripe I do have, is I run a RAM disk into which I load 'wakeup pictures' on startup, right now I use applescripts to load and trash the pix on startup and shutdown, it works, but is slow and clunky, and I don't entirely trust it. Can someone tell me, could i get the 'Persistent RAM Disk' feature of later OSes by swapping out the Memory control panel, or am I stuck with the current way of doing things?

Bugger, I didn't think it was so late, no wonder I can't keep my eyes open.

TIA,

Nick

 

Byrd

Well-known member
Hey Nick! Hope you're going well in your neck of the woods.

I quite like the LC580 too and I'd definately go the 40Mhz overclock, and a full '040 too. Shove in a more modern hard disk (eg. a 20GB), but I wouldn't bother with the CD-ROM as the 24X isn't much faster than the 8X - not due to onboard SCSI speeds, it's more due to little difference in speed between the drives themselves.

Currently nearing the bin is a 5500/250 board, it's physically compatible in the 580 but not sure if it'll work, happy to post it your way if so.

Cheers

Jordi

 

AusNick

Well-known member
Register… I took a look, but neither myself or my mate are into overclocking. He's done board swaps to see if it can be done, but as with my machines, they're unmodded other than being upgraded.

Jordi…Thanks for the offer, my friend, but I'm too much of a purist to board-swap any of my machines. I'm a little bit proud of the 580, it's hung on well. Hey, if you're ever in the area, you know you're welcome to visit.

Nick

 
I've run LC 580s with 132 MB RAM with no problem. 64 MB SIMMs in both slots. I don't think they really take any more power than any other kind of SIMM with the same number of chips.

 
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