Sun Ultra 10

[techfury90]

The keyboard/mouse on Sun hardware isn't PS/2. Its a special miniDIN-8 connection. The mouse plugs into the keyboard. You're not getting video because its not detecting a keyboard connected, so its operating in serial console mode, therefore no video.

 

[Phreakinus]

The keyboard/mouse on Sun hardware isn't PS/2. Its a special miniDIN-8 connection. The mouse plugs into the keyboard. You're not getting video because its not detecting a keyboard connected, so its operating in serial console mode, therefore no video.

Yeah I know it's not PS/2 but I have a sun adapter that lets me use PS/2 devices... will it do the same thing if no mouse is plugged in?

 

[chris]

Macintoshman:

I have to say that if you took 2 hours to get Ubuntu to play an MP3 then I don't know exactly what you're doing wrong. You click Applications, go to the bottom, click Add/Remove, go to 'Sound & Video,' and select any application that says 'Media Player' in the description.

Besides, I'm pretty sure Ubuntu has built-in MP3 support... Been so long since I installed that I don't remember. Debian does; Ubuntu is based on Debian, so I would assume that it does.

Take another look at Ubuntu, and this time use the handy Add/Remove Programs tool. Much more useful than the Windows version. Stick to the programs in there(which provide workable replacements for most if not all of the programs needed for home/office/video editing/etc use) and you'll be fine. True, LINUX doesn't have a standard package, but Ubuntu(again, based on Debian, which is one of the most used distributions when you count all of its children) does, and it's actually far easier to install programs on Ubuntu than on a Mac.

And as for the commands being different; 'cd' and 'dir' are exactly the same(though 'dir' isn't technically a unix command, it's there to make migrating from DOS easier. the rreal command is 'ls') 'del' is 'rm' etc

Plus, when was the last time you used Ubuntu, and what version? It has a six month release schedule, and a LOT has happened since, say, last January. Almost an unimaginable amount since two Januarys ago.

alk:

Thanks for mentioning Aurora. Hadn't seen that before. My SS5 currently has Debian 4.0 on it(and Solaris 7 for historic value) but I'm looking for something more specific to the Sun arch.

 

[paws]

Yeah, if only someone made a well-supported UNIX for SPARC hardware... wouldn't that be great?

 

[ChristTrekker]

Macintoshman, yeah what I love about Solaris is how you can use programs from previous versions just fine, there's a standard packaging system, and in general, compatibility is excellent. Even Solaris 10 today still has SunOS 4.x compatibility (hint: SunOS 4.x became Solaris 1.x). You can run programs from even the late 1980s on modern Solaris releases. Try that with an early Linux program without recompiling.

Except for device drivers... I really want my SunPCi to work under Solaris 10.

 

[MacNoob]

WHAT IS WITH RUNNING LINUX ON ALL DEVICES

Mostly because then I can use the same Firefox and Thunderbird on every system in the house, and only have to learn one OS!

 

[ChristTrekker]

WHAT IS WITH RUNNING LINUX ON ALL DEVICES
Keep it on a pc. Dont put it on a G5,Dont Put it on a toaster. Dont put it on a sun.

Yeah! That's what NetBSD is for!

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[paws]

WHAT IS WITH RUNNING LINUX ON ALL DEVICES

Mostly because then I can use the same Firefox and Thunderbird on every system in the house, and only have to learn one OS!

Where's the fun in that!

 

[Christopher]

Rhapsody FTW!

 

[SiliconValleyPirate]

Quote:"Beacouse it works"

Answer: NO.

Oh STFU. Solaris is great, I love it a lot on the Sun's I run it on, it even works great on a PC. But it is a GODS OWN BITCH (apologies in advance to any sensitive religious folk) to install Open Source software on to (compared to say Debian, or Fedora).

The package repository systems available are immature and all work to different rules (in a UNIX system that is so good because it is so holistic). It is in dire need of a system akin to atp-get or rpm so you're not left to install packages ad nauseam with Suns package installer and wrestle un-handled dependencies manually. Sun, thank the lord, are working to provide a lightweight, open source, more Linux-like OS based off of the Solaris kernel and frameworks, that will hopefully grow a decent, 21st century package system that keeps true to the holistic UNIX-like Solaris approach. Solaris is unique among old-industry UNIX as a UNIX that is slowly adapting to the 21st century, instead of pedaling the same UNIX from 1989 that everyone got used to. At the same time though, it also is keeping a vital element of integrity and continuity that Linux lost many years ago.

You have no right to tell people what OS to run on any machine. You're opinion is yours, and one I share for the most part, but frankly the way you express it is wrong, your attitude stinks. If you want to scream and rant go to digg.com. Computers are there to do what you want to do with them. If you can't do it with the 'native' OS then you have to look elsewhere. Linux is a versatile and portable OS, so it deserves to be run wherever it can thrive. It sucks on some platforms, but then again it's what your used to, and what support that platform has. Debian is very well supported on non-x86 platforms (it's one of few Linux distros that really has that diversity, normally reserved for BSDs).

Do what you want, with what you have, but don't try to be the voice and hands of others.

 

[macintoshman]

Linux Airlines

Disgruntled employees of all the other OS airlines decide to start their own airline. They build the planes, ticket counters, and pave the runways themselves. They charge a small fee to cover the cost of printing the ticket, but you can also download and print the ticket yourself. When you board the plane, you are given a seat, four bolts, a wrench and a copy of the seat-HOWTO.html. Once settled, the fully adjustable seat is very comfortable, the plane leaves and arrives on time without a single problem, the in-flight meal is wonderful. You try to tell customers of the other airlines about the great trip, but all they can say is, "You had to do what with the seat?"

 

[chris]

Jesus, that's HOW old?

At least 5 years. You do realize you're the one asking "You had to do what with the seat?" here... The person who doesn't realize it's good if you give it a chance... Etc.

 

[macintoshman]

I did. Ubuntu 6, DSL,Puppy,Fedora, you name it. I mean, OS X is proof that unix can be fun and easy. I just dont see the benifit form spendng months getting a system running. Maby I was trying some obscure apps. IDK.

I am just trying to say that the OS should stay out of the users way most of the time, not requiring to be "Fed". I tired, posted on a linux forum about it (Not Here) and they said " We are not here to tell you all the steps of compiling an app, figure it out on your own."

Good way to drive away new users.

 

[macintoshman]

oh,

The directions on the web for compiling did not work.

How agrevating if the instruction manuel does not work.

 

[paws]

I fail to see what OS X has to do with UNIX, certification or not.

The apps are all programmed with APIs and a mindset that has nothing to do with UNIX. OS X is about the pretty face, not what's underneath. Sure, you've got bash on top and pipes and sockets if you want them, but that's completely insulated from the rest of the system, it doesn't seem to work together with Cocoa side of things, beyond nice drag and drop into Terminal.app. BeOS is more UNIX-like than OS X is...

 

[Metalchic]

I fail to see what OS X has to do with UNIX, certification or not.
The apps are all programmed with APIs and a mindset that has nothing to do with UNIX. OS X is about the pretty face, not what's underneath. Sure, you've got bash on top and pipes and sockets if you want them, but that's completely insulated from the rest of the system, it doesn't seem to work together with Cocoa side of things, beyond nice drag and drop into Terminal.app. BeOS is more UNIX-like than OS X is...

thats becasue only at isvery core routeens is it UNIX based, the most basic levels. mostly to handle the kernel booup. originaly OSX was intended to have alot mof unix structure but in the end they just built the very core off of it.

an excamplewould be that MS DOS 7 was at the very core of windows 95/98

 

[paws]

It's cos Apple is a bunch of idiots is why

 

[paws]

I mean, if they're so clever, why can't I get a blue laptop? That's all I want. Blue.

 

[chris]

Macintoshman:

Reread my post about installing applications on Ubuntu. And get a new version of it. You can go to a bookstore and get a handy book of how to use it with a DVD in the back for less than $20.

I have not had to compile one application in the two years I've been using Ubuntu. All of them have either had a package in the Add/Remove Programs dialog or have had a workable replacement there. (Side note: I've compiled several by CHOICE, but that's beside the point.) I really don't understand why you seem to think compiling applications is necessary for a Linux system. It's not, any more than it is for a Mac OSX system. Sure there are a few distributions that are source-only like Gentoo and Source Mage, but we're talking Ubuntu here.

What applications do you need so badly?

 

[mongo]

I ran into the same problem when I first started with Ubuntu. I was frustrated that I couldn't play/encode MP3's out of the box. The reason is that a default Ubuntu install only has unrestricted open-source software. To install non-free, patent encumbered, binary software or drivers, just enable the other repositories: Restricted, Universe or Multiverse (I forget which one).

I did. Ubuntu 6, DSL,Puppy,Fedora, you name it... I just dont see the benifit form spendng months getting a system running.

I don't believe it took you months to get Ubuntu, DSL or Puppy to run. No way.