Reply LC PDS Dos Card

[CompactMacLover]

Anyone Ever seen one of these, I got this Reply LC PDS Dos card off eBay.. However its too big to fit into my LC 630, or any other machine with an LC PDS Slot.

The model number is Reply LCIAL6520102

Any ideas

 

[bbraun]

I've got one. I've never gotten it working properly though.

It fits in my 630, but my 630 lacks the display card edge connector for it. I've currently got it in a 6214 with PCSetup 2.1.7, and the software says the card is booting, but I can't get video.

 

[CompactMacLover]

Yeah thats the problem here, My 630 doesnt have the display card edge connector, What im wondering is if I can just remove the daughtercard on top since the bottom card holds all the ram and cpu and stuff. From what I can gather the upper daugtercard gives you additional I/O Such as Serial, Parallel and Video output. I may install it in the 630 without the upper daughtercard and install the reply drivers and give it a shot, see if it boots up.

I originally bought it to put it in my CC

 

[bbraun]

Do you have specific Reply drivers for the MacOS part? I'm just using PCSetup. If there's specific Reply drivers, maybe that's why it's not working correctly for me.

 

[CompactMacLover]

Heres the link to them. They are on the Mac Driver Museum. Im gonna give mine a go without the daughtercard installed. Because All I can see that the daughtercard does is add Parallel, Serial, and Video for a secondary monitor.

http://www.macdrivermuseum.net/video/knighttech/index.html

 

[Trash80toHP_Mini]

Does the upper card have more than one connector on it? :?:

I had the lower half only and never got it working, IIRC, it was the one with the Video out connector.

I'm almost certain you'll need a DOS Compatible MoBo with the Edge Card Connector on the MoBo and

ROM Support for a DOS Card in order to get any LC PDS DOS Card up and running.

I've got the same setup coming in from macmetex and I've got a couple of DOS Compatible Mobos for the 6xx/6xxx form factor.

IIRC, I've got the Apple DOS Card for the same boxen as well, hopefully it'll turn up as I rummage through what I've still got stored in my magic boxen and sort it all out.

I've come up with a few real beauties that I thought I'd lost in the Storage Room Fiasco. :b&w:

 

[CompactMacLover]

I got the same setup from the same guy you got yours from. I got it to put in CC, But I had the 636 laying around and thought what the heck lets see if itll work. I thought it would be pretty wicked to have a CC with a DOS Card in it

 

[Trash80toHP_Mini]

As long as you do the Takky Type mod to your CC with a P6XX DOS Compatible Drawer, you should be made in the shade!

You won't even have to worry about the Takky's 3.3v issue . . . hrmmm . . . }

 

[CompactMacLover]

As much as id like to do that to my CC, id prefer it stay stock. Then again, I can always swap back in the original board if need be. All of my compacts are stock

 

[Trash80toHP_Mini]

The Takky type mod renders a CC ANYTHING but stock and the old MoBo Drawer don' fit no mo', comrade! )

I can see the wisdom in wanting to keep your CC Stock.

But pick out some POS AIO to hack up. Something like the LC580(?) that has the non-Trinitron, but larger, CRT (for playing DOS/Win & Classic Mac games) and comes stock with a 6XX MoBo Drawer and that funky IDE implementation.

Better yet, find a POS 5XXX AIO with the 15" shadow mask CRT and TV-Tuner Capability, that way you can play Apple II games on the same screen on a real Apple II by outputting video into the POS AIO/DOS Compatible's Video Card! That's what I used to display my Laser 128's video output in a window on my P6360 DOS Compatible back in the day. with the resolution set on 16"/16bit or maybe it was 800x600/16 bit on a 21" CRT!

That's FOUR gaming platforms using just the 5XXX AIO box sitting on an Apple II/IIe Box or with an Apple \\c or Laser 128 sitting right next to the POS AIO for the second set of peripherals!

Whatever, the hackin' options are barely finite! }

 

[BeniD82]

Sorry for "raising the dead" so to say, but I just wanted to add my two cents... I own a Takky Colour Classic which is now actually fully loaded, containing the guts of a Performa 6500 with a Sonnet L2 G3/500, CS II ethernet, A/V card, and some no-name USB 1.1 board in the PCI slot.

Before going for the full-fledged PPC mod, I actually tried the Mystic mod first (LC 575 boad), in combination with the VGA mod, which was shortly after followed by my Takky 68k mod. After making the necessary modifications to the harness, I dropped in the logic board of a LC 630 DOS Compatible (or was it a 640, can't remember, but it has two memory slots) into the CC and I can say it worked like a charm. General video tasks on the Mac side were ever-so-slighly slower than on the LC 575 due to the 580+ models using regular RAM rather than dedicated VRAM and getting ATA/IDE to work properly was ... uhmm yeah ... fun ... but other than that it actually performed really well!

Being able to switch between Mac and PC environment on a fly, all self-contained within this little beige box with that tiny 9" Trinitron color tube, I have to admit that this definitively bought my inner geek out of me. Too cool. I've used this setup for quite a while but due to my insatiable hunger for more Power(PC) I ended up replacing this board with the Performa 6500 logic board and couldn't be happier.

About a year ago I acquired a Performa 6200 Road Apple for very cheap, tossed the board since I really just needed the case (I played around with it for a bit, and yes, they definitively deserve that title) and dropped in the LC 630 DOS Compatible. This has become my main 68k machine which I hope I'll be able to keep running for as long as I can. It may not be a top performer or the most visually appealing machine when comparing it to the other 68k models, but to me this setup is a prime example of "ingenous professional hardware hackery" which makes it quite unique to me, especially when considering that what we now can do at ease and on the fly in software, e.g. through emulation, actually had been implemented in hardware a mere decade or so ago ... again, this is just my inner geek speaking again.

-- BeniD82

 

[BeniD82]

Oh yeah, not to forget, I actually upgraded the original Intel 486/66MHz with a 100MHz Cyrix 5x86 ... had to add a socket/power converter to get it working, but the difference in speed on the DOS side is VERY noticable!

 

[Trash80toHP_Mini]

It's interesting to note that those "Road Apple" Awards are very selectively awarded. Some machines avoided that tag simply because they were cool, like the original, stock CC, IIRC.

Many with that nick' don't deserve it, simply being the "LowEndMac" of a generation can hardly be cause for "Road Apple" status. Apple hobbled many a HighEndMac that has escaped "Road Apple" status.

I never notice any difference between my lamed IDE HDD interfaced Quadra 630 and a SCSI Drive Equipped Mac. Then again, I almost never left a, miniscule, stock Apple Drive in ANY Mac I've ever owned. Those always went into an older machines as internals or externals, because they invariably required larger drives.

I put big, fast Seagates into the SCSI Macs and BIGGER FASTER Western Digitals into the Q630 and the P6360 and then the G4 DA.

I'd almost bet that Apple's kluged IDE interface on the so called "Road Apples" would be faster than their kluged SCSI interface if you put comparably, BIGGER and FASTER HDDs on a "Road Apple" and comparable SCSI based Mac.

Yes, SCSI DRIVES have and probably always will be faster than any IDE implementation, because they're invariably intended for a more High End System. But given Apple's incredibly bad/SLOW classic SCSI interface and equally bad, but a bit less SLOW original IDE interface.

Road Apple HDDs were the problem, not IDE, IMHO! }

Remember, the COPRO-less LowEnd Q630 outperformed the IIfx in floating point operations! :approve:

 

[Bunsen]

To be fair, LEM have updated their "Road Apple" list, giving each machine a rating between one and four brown apples for just how compromised they were. Only the notorious 52xx/62xx/6300/6320 machines (*spit*) score a four.