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Powerbook 180 No Boot

macuserman

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Alright so here's the drive that was in it, I really have nothing to lose attempting to fix it so I'm hoping someone can give me some tips here. I Do hear it making noises like it's trying to read then at the end it started "clicking" so not sure if the drive is hooked up the computer just tries forever to read it. I did find I had an OS 8 floppy handy and I put that in and was able to get the happy mac before being told it was incompatible, so I really think a drive will cure this laptop. Super excited to see it actually get to the desktop, I'm not even sure how much memory it has in it.
 

macuserman

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Also I was looking at alternatives for the hardrive and it's pretty confusing out there. About 100 different versions there is bluescsi there is scsi2sd and then there is v5 and v5.5 etc etc. How the hey do you guys make sense of it and decide what to get?

I am less concerned about the financial side of this and more interested in ease of use for whatever that's worth. I don't care about fancy features and I'd love to not have to spend a few hours understanding how to configure and use whatever I bought. As close to buy it and just put it in as possible is ideal.
 

desertrout

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That drive is 120MB - curious to see what might be the problem inside. Not sure the IBM drives suffer from sticky bumpers... more of a Conner / Quantum thing. I guess we'll see!

Agree that the choices for modern HDD options are plentiful - a good problem to have. In terms of ease - in my experience - BlueSCSI is the simplest to set up and use. Probably the best route (easiest, quickest) is to purchase one of @androda 's built PB boards https://androda.work/product/powerbook-bluescsi-version-4-f1-tba-pb-v4/

I have a BlueSCSI in my Portable and it's great, and I have two PB versions (not androda's) on my bench waiting for blue pills to arrive. Happy to endorse the project.
 

sutekh

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Agree that the choices for modern HDD options are plentiful - a good problem to have. In terms of ease - in my experience - BlueSCSI is the simplest to set up and use. Probably the best route (easiest, quickest) is to purchase one of @androda 's built PB boards https://androda.work/product/powerbook-bluescsi-version-4-f1-tba-pb-v4/

I have a BlueSCSI in my Portable and it's great, and I have two PB versions (not androda's) on my bench waiting for blue pills to arrive. Happy to endorse the project.

Agree it's a great problem to have! Just be conscious of the performance implications @macuserman. I have SCSI2SDs in my 180s vs. BlueSCSI because the performance delta between the two is noticeable and measurable on a 68030. BlueSCSI is an awesome project with great support and ease of use though!
 

desertrout

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Agree it's a great problem to have! Just be conscious of the performance implications @macuserman. I have SCSI2SDs in my 180s vs. BlueSCSI because the performance delta between the two is noticeable and measurable on a 68030. BlueSCSI is an awesome project with great support and ease of use though!
Oh? Interesting... I thought someone had run the benchmarks and the delta was minuscule. Well, I suppose that's a typical trade off... ease-of-use (and cost) vs. performance. (Though, I don't think the SCSI2SD is really that difficult to use... a matter of degrees). Good to know!
 

macuserman

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Agree it's a great problem to have! Just be conscious of the performance implications @macuserman. I have SCSI2SDs in my 180s vs. BlueSCSI because the performance delta between the two is noticeable and measurable on a 68030. BlueSCSI is an awesome project with great support and ease of use though!
Ahh! Ok that's good to know! I haven't pulled the trigger on it yet to many projects going right now, so far I just got the 180 and now it's sitting on the shelf. It's not really a machine that I wanted or needed but I just like the challenge of reviving the old tech. So now that it's mostly fixed and the mystery is gone.... Anyhow we'll see what happens to it, I'm hesitant to drop the money on an expensive drive solution since I don't think it will improve the value and I think it may be finding a new home when I am sufficiently satisfied with it. Still shopping around a little maybe I'll stumble across a nice used scsi drive I really do love the noise they make.
 
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