performa 6360 pci ethernet HELP

[p.amadeus]

I just got this Performa 6360 and I had a PCI Apple 10/100 Ethernet card laying around so I installed it into my Performa so i could get it networked.

Problem is I can't get OS 7.6 or 8 to recognize it.

I'm installing 8.5 now to see what happens.

Any suggestions? Do I need a special driver or some other software?

Ideally I would like it to work with OS 7.6.

 

[Flash!]

Assuming you have done a 'normal' System installation (in 7.6, 8 or 8.5) then the card *should just work*

Firstly, does whatever you have the card plugged in to (such as a hub or router) have blinky blinky lights? If the lights are blinking then the card is alive and all you're talking bout is software.....

Check: Appletalk, Chooser, Network, FileSharing, Extensions Manager (you may have switched something off)...etc

 

[Gil]

When i installed OS 7.6 on my Performa 578, there were *2* Ethernet Drivers, but neither were the correct ones. I downloaded them from a site (just googled "Apple Comm I Ethernet Drivers" in my case) and installed them. Now it works correctly. See if you can find the drivers online and get them onto a floppy disk.

 

[p.amadeus]

yeah i've done fresh installs of all of them just to be sure.

The lights on the card do light up when I plug it into my router.

MacAttack, the card is in a PCI slot, not the Comm slot so those may not work but I'll give it a shot.

Thanks and I'll keep this updated!

 

[equill]

I don't believe that MacAttack94 was suggesting that you download CS I-specific software for a PCI card, but citing his own approach to a problem.

Ethernetworking usually just happens if the card, cabling and LAN are good, and if you have set up the requisite conditions. There is much about your setup that you haven't mentioned, making it difficult to advise you. Is your LAN two Macs (one the 6360), a crossover Cat 5e cable and another ethernet-capable device, or larger (in number of devices) than that? If it is larger, were you already using a hub or a switch in a star configuration? Are the devices physically connected at startup of the 6360? Has the newly-installed 10/100 card four indicator LEDs or two? Can it be assumed that, if you had a LAN of two or more devices already, it was working? Or is it just the WAN (access beyond your router/switch/modem) that concerns you? How (what settings) did you configure the 6360 and the modem (if a WAN is part of your interest)?

Flash has listed most of your needs, but included Open Transport in the 'etc.' Now the problem needs more definition from you.

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[p.amadeus]

I already have a network set up that my G5 Quad, MacBook, girlfriend's HP laptop, Wii, PSP, and my PS3 all connect to via Ethernet or wireless to connect to each other and the internet. It works great save the Performa. Here's the basic layout...

•I have a wired Ethernet router which is connected directly to my cable modem and serves as my gateway.

•Connected to that is my Avaya wireless bridge which provides 802.11b and 802.11g separately via the two radios installed into it (this is how my MacBook, HP laptop, Wii, PSP, and PS3 all connect)

•My G5 quad is plugged directly into my wired router.

•The Performa 6360 would fit in by also plugging directly into the wired router.

I just wiped the HD and did a fresh install of OS 7.6 after installing the Ethernet PCI card in the lone PCI slot of my Performa 6360.

My problem is that the system isn't recognizing that I installed the card at all.

AppleTalk control panel only shows the modem port and printer port as options.

The TCP/IP control panel says "The control panel cannot be opened because AppleTalk is inactive and no alternate connections are available"

When I make AppleTalk active then re-open TCP/IP it says "The previously selected connection, "Ethernet", is not available. The connetion has been changed to "AppleTalk (MacIP)".

Network control panel is non-existant.

Checked Extensions manager and nothing is turned off.

What now?

 

[equill]

Fine. Now we know that there is one miscreant amongst a bunch of solid citizens. Assuming that the 6360 is connected into the LAN at startup, do you have three solid LEDs (of four) or one solid LED (of two), or is the LI (link) LED blinking madly? If so, connection (autonegotiation) is not being achieved with the switch. Dud card, dud cable, or dud switch (which you can obviously rule out). A 10/100 card (usually, but not always, with four LEDs) almost certainly can autonegotiate with the switch if the 'physical layer' from card to switch inclusive is intact.

If the card is not being 'seen' it is not going to talk to anyone, either. It could again be a dud card, or it could lack critical software. My first guess is that OT is not installed. Single-click AppleTalk in Control Panels and do a command-i interrogation on it. If the Get Info. window does not show 'Apple Talk/Open Transport 1.1.2', you have found the problem. OT 1.1.1 and 1.1.2 have to be installed manually, or once a year, up until OS 8.0 or so. Inevitably, other components of OT will also be missing, but Network Extension 7.6 should be present. AppleShare 3.8.3 is also a wise addition.

If this doesn't allow you to configure the card, you will have to suspect some deep-seated malaise justifying its replacement. You are certain that it is an Apple card? If so, it should be plug-'n'-play, but if it is an Asanté, Farallon, Dayna and so on in Apple's clothing, you will have to identify it and get the drivers before you can finally decide that it does or doesn't work.

de

 

[p.amadeus]

I already have OT 1.1.2

The card itself has a sticker on it that says

"Apple Fast Ethernet 10/100BASE-T Card"

of course this sticker covers the main chip on the card....

I believe I originally pulled this card from a fried beige g3, but I know the card itself works because I used it in a B&W for a while.

 

[equill]

Unless you have had better fortune since last you wrote, it may be that you are at the serious malfunction-investigation point. If (I don't know its insides) the 6360 uses a PCI riser card with one PCI slot, is the riser card bung? If it has >1 slots, does another work? If the 6360 has conventional PCI slots, does another, and so on ... You never did report what the number and activity of LEDs on the NIC was. That is diagnostic of card function.

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[p.amadeus]

Sorry I forgot, the card has 4 lights and when I plug in a cable connected to me router, three of them light up. The real problem is the OS is not even recognizing that there is an Ethernet PCI card installed at all.

As for the PCI slot itself I know it works fine, last night I took out the Ethernet card and replaced with with an old PCI Radeon 7000 graphics card I had laying around as a test and it worked fine, so the lone PCI slot in the 6360 (which does use a riser card) works fine in and of itself.

I'm getting hopeless...why wouldn't an Apple PCI Ethernet card work in a PCI Mac...I shouldn't have to install any drivers! ARGGH maybe I'll just have to buy a slow Comm slot card [] ]'>