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Macintosh Plus ROM Chips in Macintosh 512K

Mikemike690

Active member
I've just brought a Macintosh Plus and soon to buy Macintosh 512K, the Plus has corrosion from battery leakage but I'm pretty sure the ROM chips will still be good hopefully, am I able to unsolder these Plus chips and solder them into my 512K? Thanks.

 

danc

Member
Cause im the one currently bidding on it.... I was just going off your other post about the error code. I have a 512k  with a buggered psu... was gonna try fix it but this seemed like the easier option for now

 

danc

Member
im bidding on the 512k. not after the plus - have a few already and mrs has had enough of me buying multiple versions of the same computer!

 

trag

Well-known member
To answer the original question, the ROMs on both machines are in sockets. The ROMs are not soldered down. If you put the ROMs from a Plus in a 512K then you have a 512KE; strictly speaking it also needs an 800K floppy drive, but logically, a 512K with Plus ROMs is a 512KE. So, yes it will work. It slightly changes the character of the machine.

 

Elfen

Well-known member
I was about to explain the same thing Trag stated and agree with him 100%.

1) The ROMs on the 128K to Plus are on sockets. There are no soldered ROMs on the board, you need to be careful when you remove them as to not to bend the pins when you take them out of the sockets.

2) There are 2 sets of these ROMs, one for the 128K/512K Macs and the other for 512Ke and Plus Macs. The differences in the ROMS are major but the newer Mac Plus/512Ke ROMs are backwards compatible to the older 128K/512K Mac ROMs. The differences is in using 400K Drives vs. 800K drives, using the older Systems before 4.2, and being able to access SCSI Hard Drive s (though the 512Ke does not have a SCSI chip to access hard drives, an add-on board with the SCSI chip for the 512Ke is all that is needed to make this possible). Other than that, what differences are there you would not notice, you can still run the older System and software on the "newer" ROMs.

As for this "auction" who ever wins, wins. Lets not fight over it and lets not try to stick to the other, because you two can get stuck with an over-priced dead Mac that might not be worth much of anything. What you two should be doing is discussing in private what parts each other needs and then possibly share in that. Somebody might need an analog board, the other the logic board, a third the cables and CRT Yoke, a forth the CRT itself, a fourth, the front or back casing - you get the idea. So good luck to the winner and see what we can do for each other there. This place is for sharing experience, knowledge and resources, not arguing about who is going to win what auction.

 
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Mikemike690

Active member
Sorry that comment was not meant to come out like that, but to the point could I keep the 400k drive and still fully use the Plus chips? Or would that be a comparability issue? Thanks.

 

danc

Member
I don't believe anyone was arguing about who's gonna win the auction? Whoever bids the most gets it, if mike chooses to go higher then sweet as :) ... I'm not that bothered, as for selling the 512k it depends what I find wrong with the analog board and if I can repair it with my limited soldering skills

 

danc

Member
Was it the plus in chch that your talking about that went for over 300 bucks? Seems a bit excessive for an untested plus with battery leakage... Crazy

 

Mikemike690

Active member
Yeah it was, apparently it only has corrosion on the battery terminals not leaking through, it's going to be my first project anyway so if it's a little expensive I don't mind

 

Elfen

Well-known member
If there is no trace rot, pour some backing soda on the battery box and scrub it with a tooth brush. Then run distilled water over it until the baking soda is gone. Then chase it down with some hi-proof isopropyl alcohol and blow dry it with compressed air or a hair dryer.

 
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