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LaserJet 4+ - on the bench

CJ_Miller

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Maybe a year ago I was trying to make my own PCBs by printing designs onto "Press-n-Peel Blue" to transfer onto blank copper-clad circuit boards. Thinking ahead around two years ago I bought a low-use LaserJet 4+ for this purpose and outfit it with a PostScript card. Many of my tests went fine, except that I wanted to panel many circuits onto an 8.5"x11" piece of PNP. This is not how people do it! Anyway I got lots of PNP stuck in my printer and after a few botched tried my printer had a permanent "13 paper jam" error. I got fed up with it and shelved the thing until now. Because now I am on vacation! And I like to spend my vacation solving technical problems I usually don't have time for.

To my surprise, I fixed the paper jam error quite easily! There is a spring on the side of the paper exit assembly which had come loose, probably from me frantically trying to unjam it. I figured out how to get the covers off and corrected the spring. Now the error is gone and the thing finally prints again! But now it prints badly. When I pulled the toner cartridge out, it seems to have developed a problem. Piles of toner leak out of the cartridge whenever I move it. And removing and inserting it into the printer has caused toner to get into parts of the printer where it shouldn't be. So now I am taking apart the whole thing to vacuum and wipe everything clean. Hopefully I can still use the transfer roller. And to be a complete idiot I am going to try taping up the toner so that it doesn't leak. I am completely broke, strapped, and simply cannot buy more toner now.

Over the past few months I have had great luck with PNP on my printer at work, and etched some nice boards at home. But I would rather do the whole process at home with my own printer.

Funny thing I noticed: even though my whole household network has changed a lot, my MDD G4 still finds and prints to my 4+ with no difficulty. But my newer Dell XPS Vista box does not seem able to detect the printer at all. HP has no drivers, says Vista uses the driver automatically and connects to the printer. Which is great, except, it doesn't. I want my SE to be able to print to it also.

If I am feeling really freaky, I might try to hook up my Atari SLM804 laser printer also. A guy sent this to me with an ST Mega I bought years ago, but I have yet to do anything with it.

 

PowerPup

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The LaserJet 4+ is a nice printer. We got one from a friend who had got it from JH Kelly, a local industrial contractor. While the cartridge was still usable (same thing occurred as yours,) we enjoyed using it a lot. It came with a network card with built in AppleTalk support. So I had fun being able to use my macs with it. For now we have it set aside until we have the extra money to buy a new toner cartridge.

I don't know how well taping the cartridge will work. But eh, you're going to replace it eventually anyway. ;)

 

trag

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The 4 Plus is a great printer! The thing is like a transformer. You can put a 500 page sheet feeder under the thing, or add a duplexing unit, or both, and every thing you add just makes it taller, not wider.

Also, plain old 72 pin SIMMs work in the thing, although HP swore up and down that only HP SIMMs would do.

And the EIO cards. Localtalk. Ethernet. Token Ring. LocalTalk/Ethernet. Great connectivity.

Doesn't Vista have any kind of generic Postscript driver? Or is Vista too "helpful" for that to work?

 

CJ_Miller

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Meant to mention yesterday, you can use Toner Transfer Paper http://www.pcbfx.com/main_site/pages/start_here/overview.html and just iron on or laminate the toner to copper clad board. That avoids running adhesive bearing paper through the printer.
PressNPeel has no adhesive, but it is thin, crinkly plastic sheet, like mylar. I needs to be taped to a piece of paper for proper rigidity. Also I have heard of people using transparencies and glossy paper with good results. When my PNP went through the fuser without paper, it melted to itself. This was a relief, at first it appeared to have melted to the fuser! Thank you for the tip, I will check out their paper.

Still haven't cleaned out the printer. Need to take more of it apart first.

 

CelGen

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I have a 4m Plus myself and it's a real workhorse that I'm sure will live to see 2020. The 500 page paper tray is nice too but it's actually quite hard to find the duplexing unit. only ever found ones for the LJ 5.

I have not had any issues getting both Vista and 7 to print to it short of a bit of tweaking (you don't set the printer up as a network printer but as a printer connected to a TCP port. :?: )

I have managed to get light sensitive photographic paper fed through my printer. You can make some weird images by printing something, exposing it for a minute , then washing off the toner to get a negative of whatever you printed. ;D

 
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