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bigmessowires

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I'm curious to see how it looks in the flesh... maybe as an experiment I'll try this on a computer I don't care too much about. How do you make the water transfer decals? After it's applied can you still tell that it's a decal?
 

jmacz

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I'm curious to see how it looks in the flesh... maybe as an experiment I'll try this on a computer I don't care too much about. How do you make the water transfer decals? After it's applied can you still tell that it's a decal?

You can buy special water slide decal paper on Amazon. They make them for inkjet or laser (two different kinds). You then print it and once dry, you cut it out and transfer using warm water like other decals. You can tell it’s a decal, depending on how close to the print you cut.

Once I find some time, I was going to work on a mechanism to allow me to use dye sublimation instead which would be just like the stock logo.
 

jmacz

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@bigmessowires here's a picture of the logo/decal. The first picture is from about 10 inches away. The second picture is from 2-3 inches away.

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As you can see, very close up you can see the decal outlines. And depending on how close you cut, it's more or less visible.
 

Daniël

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I believe it used a different plastic? Except the spacebar... the space bar does yellow.

Correct, the keycaps use PBT rather than ABS. I don't know if PBT is entirely immune to yellowing, but it sure is far more resistant to it (but that makes sense, given yellowing plastics are known to be caused by oxidizing of the polymers in ABS specifically).

The spacebar was made out of ABS. This isn't uncommon for keyboards, and there are other vintage keyboards outside of Apple's where the casing and spacebar will yellow, but the caps won't. From what I understand, it was both too costly and too complicated to make the spacebar out of PBT, as certain properties of PBT make it more susceptible to shrinkage during the molding process. This could cause spacebars to come out warped and deformed, so they just went with ABS for those.

There do exist keyboards and keycap sets with PBT spacebars, but I have heard that it's not extremely uncommon for the keycap sets to come with warped SBs, if they slipped past QC. Presumably the price of mitigating molding issues and proper QC to make sure no funky SBs got through, didn't weigh up against just using ABS instead.
 

zefrenchtoon

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Wow !!
Your work is very impressive !! 🤩

Can you share us a picture comparing your NOS AEKII with you IIci please ? (to "see" the difference between your paint and the original Apple case colour)
As you, the more I read about retrobrighting, the more I'm thinking about paint for my old Macs. :unsure:
 

jmacz

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Wow !!
Your work is very impressive !! 🤩

Can you share us a picture comparing your NOS AEKII with you IIci please ? (to "see" the difference between your paint and the original Apple case colour)
As you, the more I read about retrobrighting, the more I'm thinking about paint for my old Macs. :unsure:

The very first post/picture in this thread of my Quadra 700 + monitor + keyboard has my NOS untouched AEK II. Both the Quadra 700 and monitor have case repairs and were repainted. As you can see from that picture, the original keyboard is a little brighter.
 

zefrenchtoon

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The very first post/picture in this thread of my Quadra 700 + monitor + keyboard has my NOS untouched AEK II. Both the Quadra 700 and monitor have case repairs and were repainted. As you can see from that picture, the original keyboard is a little brighter.
Ok! Got it, thanks.
I did not pay attention to this because I thought that it was an effect from your room's lights. 😲
 
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