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Jag and OS X on SE/30

TPope

Active member
Does anyone know how Jag put OS X on a SE/30? I remember years ago that he did and there was not much ram left for anything else. I'd like to try. Peace.

Tpope

 

Elfen

Well-known member
That was not a SE\30. It was a G4/Intel Mac Mini with a small LCD Screen cut into and fitted into a Mac SE\30 case.

 

Gorgonops

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Staff member
I remember a while back on one of these forums someone claimed they'd gotten PearPC compiled on a, what was it, Centris? Quadra? 68040 running Linux and had set it to work booting some version of OS X. I vaguely recall that the attempts repeatedly ended in failure... Aha, here's the thread, don't know if they ever revisited it after killing a hard drive trying. But, sure, in theory you could "run" OS X on an unmodified SE/30 using this technique, given a large enough hard drive and enough RAM to keep the virtual memory subsystem from thrashing completely into oblivion. But it might literally take years to get to the desktop. No kidding there, *years*.

 

ArmorAlley

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I've put Mac OS 8.1 onto my IIfx and it runs quite well with 32MB RAM.

The SE/30 is 2.5 times slower and a much slower busspeed than the IIfx and I imagine that it would work but that it would crawl.

Getting back on topic, how about experimenting with NextStep on the SE/30?

I know little about NextStep, but it did run originally on 68K processors, so it seems a lot realistic than OS X.

 

Gorgonops

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Staff member
Getting back on topic, how about experimenting with NextStep on the SE/30?

I know little about NextStep, but it did run originally on 68K processors, so it seems a lot realistic than OS X.
It may have run on the same CPU but NeXT hardware other than that isn't particularly Mac-like so there's no way on earth you're installing an old version of NextStep on an SE/30. At the very least you'd need the full source code, which nobody has, and spend a few months writing kernel drivers for the totally different hardware.

 

Gorgonops

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Staff member
The one remote possibility I could see for getting a NeXT/OS X-esque environment on an SE/30 would be to install Linux or NetBSD and run GNUstep on top of it. (GNUstep is source code compatible with OpenStep/Cocoa and allows cross-compiling software that doesn't require other OS X specific APIs.) The performance would be hilariously bad but still faster than emulation. ;)

 

CollX

New member
Ever been had ,oops,jags too Cifs? Jag,cybernetics courtesy is quip about netBSD,from the SE that built the new Windows under many other Linux distros practices,mint et al?

Go on tell me there's lies...

 

Paralel

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If you could use a RAM array interfaced to the SCSI bus instead of a real HD, that PearPC trick might work, but then you're talking about custom hardware.

 
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