haplain's never-ending quest

[Gorgonops]

9/11 wasn't scary in 1985.

Of course, Steve actually did manage to 9/11 the Jackling House, but ironically it was tied up in court so long that he died before work on the smaller house he wanted to build there ever even got started. (You sort of have to wonder why he bothered tearing it down, he undoubtedly knew he wasn't long for this world by the time the wrecking crew showed up. I guess if he hadn't torn it down he wouldn't have *really*, you know, gotten his way.)

 

[haplain]

Well yeah it's 16 years too soon but just adds a little more insanity to something that's fairly unbelieveable as is.

I mean I have sentiments to both sides. On one hand someone could argue out of anyone in the world Steve could afford to fix the house. The thing is though people can't be forced to fix something just because their rich. Imagine buying a multimillion dollar house, and your first at that, after a huge ipo success. You live in it but want to make it yours and you vey well should be you bought it, but then a group of people tell you how and what your going to do with said investment. We all know Steve hated to be one upped or stopped. He probably would have been more receptive to fixing it had people not TOLD him what to do. I'm sure he felt like he was losing control of the property and said f it I'll just rip it down because it's mine, I'm smarter, have more lawyers and money. Maybe not the best or kindest logic but I could see being super pissed about being told how your going to remodel the place.

It was a gorgeous home yes. Sad it's gone yes. But at the end of the day it was his house, his property, his decision. Someone/anyone tries to make that decision for you, out of spite, a good number of individuals would make a point. Exactly like Steve did. You think you can stop me... Nope only slow me down. It's what happens when you have two sides unwilling to budge. Eventually one side wins and the other loses. Usually everyone's a loser but someone at least "feels" like they won.

 

[Gorgonops]

But at the end of the day it was his house, his property, his decision.

A lot of people, very sensible, fair, reasonable people, would argue that if you buy a historic structure then it's not entirely yours to do whatever you want with, but whatever. Plenty of ink has been spilled about how Steve Jobs didn't think the rules that apply to normal people in a civil society applied to him, I guess there's no reason to start that argument again.

 

[haplain]

Oh no trust me, having seen the house, I was so sad to hear it was gone. And agreed lets not start an argument but if someone actually cared about saving the house, Steve tried to give it away for many, many years. No one took him up on it because of the amount of $ it would have cost to repair and move... It's always nice to tell someone how to spend their money

 

[uniserver]

that is why you need to call up your bud and get that Proto See through mac portable lol

 

[Gorgonops]

but if someone actually cared about saving the house, Steve tried to give it away for many, many years. No one took him up on it because of the amount of $ it would have cost to repair and move...

At least one someone offered to haul it off well before it was demolished at no cost to him. And selling the property was *always* an option.

It's always nice to tell someone how to spend their money

Steve Jobs' absolute worst case "I'm lying to the court telling them this because no one is saying I actually have to spend my money on the restoration" estimate for what it would have taken to restore Jackling House (after he neglected it to death) would have cost him, relative to his net worth, about what it costs for your average American to buy the family dinner at Applebee's. I'm not exaggerating.

 

[Trash80toHP_Mini]

Historic homes become landmarks whenever a landmarks commission decides to make it so, the current owner has no say in the matter in many places like NYC. Heck, owners are required to get permission from the NYC Landmarks Commission in just to make tiny changes like paint color, to do renovations or to turn old industrial landmarks into condominiums.

The Steve was very lucky that Cali law didn't allow such to happen in the case of the Jackling House . . .

. . . or he couldn't have torn it down just for spite.

 

[LCGuy]

Or burnt it down.

I can imagine him saying, like Milton in the movie "Office Space"

"Ok, that is the last straw. I set the building on fire." :lol:

 

[Paralel]

That definitely sounds like a Jobsian move.

 

[Trash80toHP_Mini]

Yep, kinda like the Steve's slash and burn of extraneous Apple projects on his second coming, but no iMac to save the day.

I think this is probably just about enough thread-jacking about the Steve's unrealized modern house build unless hap wants to make a comment about that one prototype that never was so he can never nab. [] ]'>

edit: check that, hap's bound to wind up with the original architectural drawings for the Steve's house. :

 

[uniserver]

Hey hap,

I'm not sure you know how rare the Twiggy Macintosh is.



I mean you might? lol

Unless i am mistaken isnt there like only 2 that we know of for sure?

This kid in that thread, You know the kid that got that twiggy mac for 20 bucks at a flea market,

and set the real time and bombed his disk… ? !?

I guess if he is telling the truth then he might have the 3rd twiggy mac.

LIke i said HAP is quite the deal maker.

I wouldn't be surprised if he ends up acquiring it.

I mean after all hap has Steve Jobs personal Apple II,

Taken right from the dumpster at Steve's old House lol.

 

[haplain]

edit: check that, hap's bound to wind up with the original architectural drawings for the Steve's house. :

But of course I do! I've got the original prints from the original house, and the artist's rendition of the remodel, a copy of the deed, a hand written contract (written by Steve himself), a document called Apple vs. Jobs. sent to his NeXT address, etc.

Who knew that folder contained such things. Probably the best folder I've ever found.

 

[TheMacGuy]

At first I thought you were joking, but you're serious aren't you? You actually have all those documents? If so that is CRAZY! Were they in the trash or something?

 

[haplain]

Oh yes, I'm absolutely serious. I've got it all in a manila envelope and rotating through my museum...

 

[Trash80toHP_Mini]

:lol:

 

[haplain]

I'm at it again:

I truly believe this is the first working TAM ever built. Thanks uniserver for the help!!! I got it from my buddy who worked on the project. The color, texture and everything about the plastic/paint is special. The front doesn’t have labeled ports. You can see how the mold for the actual machine is different than a stock TAM and they ground the CD area down because it was hitting. The CD door is different and has that hole just drilled in to eject the CD. The speakers fabric are a different color, and missing the tweeter. The screen has that protector on it and is glossy. The CD drive is a prototype as re all the internals, the insides was nothing like a stock TAM. All the cables were different and so much so that it’s a “stock” 6500 board in there, not even a production TAM board. The inside of the machine is gold in color the list goes on and on. The coolest part to me is the start up chime. It’s not a standard Mac chime but its not a normal TAM chime either, it’s one of a kind. The Bose unit is a prototype, and marked as such.

 

[mcdermd]

Record that start up chime for us.

 

[haplain]

It's a video but how can I share it?

 

[markyb86]

You can upload to youtube then post the link

 

[haplain]

https://www.dropbox.com/s/kgquhur2vl1d25g/Prototype%20TAM%20Chime.mov