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Anonymous Freak
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To my understanding, there is a time limit. You can edit for a while, but then after a certain period of time, it 'archives'. The idea is that you don't want to go around editing old posts, because you could 'correct' something you had that others had commented on, and it might cause problems later. (Say, you claim one thing, are proven false, then edit your original post so you can later claim you were never wrong.)
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) I don't know about this board, but some also make it so that you can only edit your post while it is the 'newest' post in the thread. As soon as someone else posts, you lose the ability to edit. I don't know for sure which method is used here.
edit: (See, you can edit
) I don't know about this board, but some also make it so that you can only edit your post while it is the 'newest' post in the thread. As soon as someone else posts, you lose the ability to edit. I don't know for sure which method is used here.Christopher
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Well, I for one think its cool that you can even delete your own post if you ever wanted to.
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Is their any reason why the ™ is dated 2007?
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Is their any reason why the ™ is dated 2007?
Scott Baret
Well-known member
We SHOULD be allowed to edit posts. Suppose, for example, we need to update/change links we posted on a thread.
~tl
68kMLA Admin Emeritus
You can now edit your posts for a maximum of 60 minutes after the post has been made. After that point, if you want a post edited (to update links, etc) you will have to PM a moderator. This is mainly to stop retrospective editing of prior posts in a thread.
That's just the standard phpBB copyright message. I guess it's because the majority of phpBB3's code was released in 2007...
Mike Richardson
Banned
Sometimes you say something, and 61 minutes later you need it gone and you need it gone 61 minutes ago. This new policy is frustrating and fixes a non-existent problem.
It seems like the members of this forum, those who actually comprise the heart of this forum are never consulted about a policy change. The great Lord ~tl hands down his decrees and we are to obey.
macgeek417
Well-known member
Maybe i'll do that... Because 60 minutes is just insane.If you don't like the way this place is run, feel free to start an online petition. I've heard they're generally pretty successful in instigating change...
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While the Internet is a public place, my understanding is that this forum (like the IRC channel) is not. Much like while a street is a public place, the interior of a privately owned and operated shop or restaurant is not.
When the administrators or moderators do something, institute a new rule, it's generally with the reason that it'll make things easier to track or more conducive for the community. I can't count the number of times a thread was started, significant discussion was ensued, and then for whatever reason somebody made significant changes to their post, which ultimately caused problems.
In most shops I have seen, you're required to wear shoes, pants and a shirt. If you don't' want to be fully clothed, then it's your choice not to go into that store (and if you disagree too actively, it's the choice of the owner or employees to ask you to leave.)
Similarly, if you don't like how things are run here, (which in reality aren't very restrictive or bad at all,) then it is your choice not to visit this website, if you don't want to.
On the actual topic: I think that a 60 minute limit is really just fine. If it takes you more than 60 minutes to decide to rescind a post, (because I'm presuming the main thing is that most people want to go back and remove tracks of being ridiculous) then you're making the decision to leave it here permanently. If you're concerned with that, then my personal suggestion is to put more thought into your posts before you make them.
When the administrators or moderators do something, institute a new rule, it's generally with the reason that it'll make things easier to track or more conducive for the community. I can't count the number of times a thread was started, significant discussion was ensued, and then for whatever reason somebody made significant changes to their post, which ultimately caused problems.
In most shops I have seen, you're required to wear shoes, pants and a shirt. If you don't' want to be fully clothed, then it's your choice not to go into that store (and if you disagree too actively, it's the choice of the owner or employees to ask you to leave.)
Similarly, if you don't like how things are run here, (which in reality aren't very restrictive or bad at all,) then it is your choice not to visit this website, if you don't want to.
On the actual topic: I think that a 60 minute limit is really just fine. If it takes you more than 60 minutes to decide to rescind a post, (because I'm presuming the main thing is that most people want to go back and remove tracks of being ridiculous) then you're making the decision to leave it here permanently. If you're concerned with that, then my personal suggestion is to put more thought into your posts before you make them.
Green78II
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I can think of a reason to be able to edit posts, at least in one forum. If someone is selling a list of items, it is helpful to be able to edit that post as things ar sold rather then make a new post saying what is still available and what not. Keeps things nice and orderly :beige:
Also, If someone edits their post it usually makes a note of it at the bottom of the post stating the date and time it was edited unless the person edits something within a minute or two of posting.
Also, If someone edits their post it usually makes a note of it at the bottom of the post stating the date and time it was edited unless the person edits something within a minute or two of posting.
alk
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Thanks for the answer, Tom. I understand the desire to keep people from "revising" their own posts to remove poorly thought out comments.
I only noticed because in Trash80's thread about upgrading his G4, I made reference to a display utility but named it incorrectly. We all know that Google indexes the 68kMLA, and I wanted to correct the name of the tool to avoid search engine confusion. Of course, the post was more than 60 minutes old and so was un-editable.
Personally, I don't see the need to prevent edits. Sure, sometimes flame wars get interesting because of after-the-fact edits, but in general I think that the utility of edits to the otherwise well behaved community outweighs the few infantile argument about users editing out comments that everyone has already seen. But not being a moderator or admin, obviously my voice and opinion have no weight. This site is interesting to me because it has Mac users, not because of how it is laid out, which version of phpBB it uses, or how it is administered. I try to avoid conversations that aren't related to Macs, so I'll just leave it at that.
Peace,
Drew
I only noticed because in Trash80's thread about upgrading his G4, I made reference to a display utility but named it incorrectly. We all know that Google indexes the 68kMLA, and I wanted to correct the name of the tool to avoid search engine confusion. Of course, the post was more than 60 minutes old and so was un-editable.
Personally, I don't see the need to prevent edits. Sure, sometimes flame wars get interesting because of after-the-fact edits, but in general I think that the utility of edits to the otherwise well behaved community outweighs the few infantile argument about users editing out comments that everyone has already seen. But not being a moderator or admin, obviously my voice and opinion have no weight. This site is interesting to me because it has Mac users, not because of how it is laid out, which version of phpBB it uses, or how it is administered. I try to avoid conversations that aren't related to Macs, so I'll just leave it at that.
Peace,
Drew
Mike Richardson
Banned
There are a bevy of forums that impose INF minute edit restrictions. In light of that, 60 might as well be 0.
It is desirable to ensure that poorly thought out comments remain on the site forever, or at least until the next crash? Or perhaps the administrators derive some sort of pleasure from imposing yet another restriction on a forum that has a virtual monopoly over its subject area?
The solution is to create one thread for each one item you are selling. I foresee that this will soon be banned, however.
Another idea now that images may be embedded into posts is to create all of your posts as remotely-hosted transparent GIFs. Then you can edit them whenever you like.
I foresee transparent GIFs being banned for this purpose.
Scott Baret
Well-known member
Sales threads are another good example of why we should be able to edit these posts indefinitely.
Furthermore, we were never told about this new rule and had to figure it out ourselves. In any setting where new rules are imposed--schools, workplaces, etc--there should always be some announcement about this. To me, and probably many others on this board, the lack of communication here represents a problem for those of us who want to go back and edit our posts.
The old system never really had any problems. There were a few isolated threads in which flame wars occurred but there were also plenty of honest threads. An easier solution would have been to take editing privileges away from those involved in the frame war for a time (perhaps two weeks).
While I appreciate all that our moderators do to keep this forum active I do not feel the need to go through a middleman to change something that needs updated or edited for clarity. This is something that I liked about the old system and something I used a few times in my sales and compact Mac CRT threads. I also feel that it is the duty of the moderators to communicate these new rules to us and that this ban on editing should be lifted since it was never explained to us.
My proposal is that we go by the honors system and that if a poster becomes a problem he or she will lose their editing privileges for a short time. On the second offense, these privileges are revoked permanently. To my fellow board members--what do you think of this system?
Furthermore, we were never told about this new rule and had to figure it out ourselves. In any setting where new rules are imposed--schools, workplaces, etc--there should always be some announcement about this. To me, and probably many others on this board, the lack of communication here represents a problem for those of us who want to go back and edit our posts.
The old system never really had any problems. There were a few isolated threads in which flame wars occurred but there were also plenty of honest threads. An easier solution would have been to take editing privileges away from those involved in the frame war for a time (perhaps two weeks).
While I appreciate all that our moderators do to keep this forum active I do not feel the need to go through a middleman to change something that needs updated or edited for clarity. This is something that I liked about the old system and something I used a few times in my sales and compact Mac CRT threads. I also feel that it is the duty of the moderators to communicate these new rules to us and that this ban on editing should be lifted since it was never explained to us.
My proposal is that we go by the honors system and that if a poster becomes a problem he or she will lose their editing privileges for a short time. On the second offense, these privileges are revoked permanently. To my fellow board members--what do you think of this system?
Christopher
Well-known member
I like your idea but I think if they do that offense a second time they should have a 3 day ban from the forums altogether. and if they do it a third time, remove their editing abilities forever.
luddite
Host of RetroChallenge
The problem with that is it's more work for the mods (potentially a lot more) and is open to abuse or the appearance of abuse. Personally I don't see the problem with posting corrections/amendments after the fact... works just fine on usenet. Probably the best argument in favour of the status quo is that if you make a new post correcting an error or updating a for sale thread, it shows up as a new post which alerts everyone who's been following the thread that things have changed... editing an old post will only be noticed by the poster and thread necromancers.
Mike Richardson
Banned
It's more appropriate to edit a for sale thread to indicate an item has been sold. Otherwise, you wind up with these very long threads with lots of tiny posts from one person:
"floppy drive is sold"
"CD drive is sold"
"hard drive is sold"
All of these extra posts serve to keep bumping the thread in the forum. Bumping more than every so often is considered rude. Or, you can have people posting one thread per item for sale, which is currently permitted but predicted to be banned soon.
The top post remains outdated and stagnant. Some users might read the thread, see only the top post and still PM someone about an item that has already been sold.
This is a forum, not a newspaper. Your posts should not have to be set in stone. This is also not USENET. It is a forum, with software capable of letting users edit their posts at any time. We should be able to take advantage of this feature.
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