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Best OS for Original LC

I snagged an original LC 4/40MB Config at the electronics recycling yard. Booted up to SSW 7.0. Im fixing this up for my son to replace the iMac in his room that he is scared of. Hes 5, and he plays on my B&W Mac SE all the time, its simple and he cant screw things up. I just finished loading up the LC with SSW 6.0.8, First time messing with System 6 in color, its wicked. This is what i was thinking for config for him

SSW 6.0.8

A bunch of kids games, Oregon Trail, Number Munchers, Super Munchers that kind of stuff

SuperPaint

The HyperCard stuff

Microsoft Word so he can type if he wants.

I was also going to connect an imagewriter II to it so he can print off his drawings and stuff, I got about 60 ribbons around here for it

Thats pretty much it

What do you guys think of this configuration for him

 

PowerPup

Well-known member
Sounds like an awesome setup for your son. :D If you can get a mic for it, you should definitely Soundedit 16 and Sound effects. (Not sure if the second link is accurate.)

Both are great audio editing programs that me and my siblings loved playing with as kids. We would make silly recordings and modify the pitch and tempo and everything to make ourselves sound goofy. Then we went "professional" and started using tape cassettes. ;) (While still using the computer for sound effects.)

I highly recommend a mic for any child using a Mac. :D

Can't think of any other programs, oh, make sure that there are drawing apps. Like Kid pix, FineArtist, and ClarisWorks.

P.S. I don't know how many of these programs are SSW 6.0.8 compatible. As the lowest OS I've ever used was 7.1

 

Anonymous Freak

Well-known member
If 6 runs all your apps, stick with 6!

Although I found that a lot of slightly newer, but great education apps, need 7. For those, 7.1 seems to be the sweet spot on that config.

 
He had a graphite iMac in his room, it decided to talk to him and he was scared of it, still is, so he started playing all the old games on my Mac SE, So i snagged this LC with the matching monitor for 20 bucks and it was pretty good. My boy was having a hard time with multitasking on OS 9, at least with system 6 he has to close one app to run another. Im gonna throw on carmen sandeigo as well since I got all 3 games new in box at goodwill yesterday for mac system 6. I never had a system 6 mac in color, So SuperPaint was awesome to play with tonight.

 

protocol7

Well-known member
I found 7.1 quite slow on my Classic II. But 6.0.8 flew. I bet it looks neat in colour too. Hopefully it can run most or all you want.

If you install System Picker you could even put both on and try for yourself.

 
6.08 Is suprisingly fast, runs all the old games well, And color is awesome, I spent 20 mins drawing in superpaint, I had never seen it in color before. I even have after dark installed so there is flying toasters and fish :p

 
Well as of tonight the LC is kid tested and approved, he came right in and said Cool!, wheres oregon trail, hes been on it for 2 hours playing the game, and now hes in bed. He knows how to turn it on and turn it off, and even use floppy disks

 

amatecha

Member
That's awesome. The LC was my first computer as well. You've started him off right! ;)

Really though, it's a perfect system to start with IMO. Although I started with System 7.0 and had a TON of fun messing with ResEdit and doing tons of crazy stuff to the system. I got it when I was about 9 and just loved the thing.

Did you put a copy of Shufflepuck Cafe on there? Super classic game I guarantee your son will love. hehehe :)

 
He's still at the age where the Learning Company software collection would be interesting to him. You might want to look for some of those titles. I have multiple copies of just about every one ever made if you can't find them at a reasonable price.

 

Scott Baret

Well-known member
I agree with Dan in regards to the old Learning Company titles. He's probably at the age where he can use the Rabbit series without a problem and benefit from it educationally, but is approaching the age for the Treasure series or possibly even the Super Solvers series depending on his current academic ability.

Some older Learning Company titles offer more differentiation than others. In general, the math titles offer the most. Math Rabbit has "quick sets" for certain grade levels. OutNumbered can be tweaked quite a bit; one can even choose the numbers to appear in drill problems (useful if a student has mastered, say, n * 1 and n * 5 but not other times tables). A few products will present progressively harder problems as the player progresses, which is fine, but can't be reverted to easier problems if one struggles (Gizmos and Gadgets, the science program, is a good example of this). Gizmos and Gadgets can, however, display only certain types of problems (useful if you want to focus on a particular subject, such as force or simple machines). Some of the products offer no user customization at all (including Midnight Rescue, a reading program with multiple choice questions about passages which can be helpful for standardized test preparation). User-generated content can be used occasionally, such as in Spellbound, where a customized spelling list can be entered.

Another factor to consider is your son's hand-eye coordination. The Rabbit series is pretty easy to use--all you need to do is point and click. The Treasure and Super Solvers series, for the most part, require far better "gaming" skills. This element adds to the fun of the games for most, but for those who maybe have never played a video game, moving the character around on the screen and involving him in the action needed to win the game can be frustrating. I once observed a six year old struggle with Midnight Rescue because of the controls (he was fine with the reading aspect). Basically, you need to move a character around with arrow keys (or the mouse, which is harder for most) and be able to both zap robots and leap over/dodge obstacles. The Treasure games are a little easier in this respect than the Super Solvers titles (the one exception is Spellbound, which has no action components but does have its share of puzzle games).

The voice in the programs is clear and authentic--no C3PO wannabes here. It's more natural than the speech from OS 9 and definitely beats the original MacInTalk. Not every program makes use of speech, and Spellbound only speaks certain words (others will be flashed on the screen). Another innovative feature of the non-Rabbit programs is the online help in the form of "new user messages", which are displayed the first time a player goes through the game. They can always be turned on again later if need be.

Finally, if you are going to purchase these for an LC, make sure you avoid the CD-ROM versions. These usually require more horsepower than your LC has. The floppy-based versions will work fine. Keep in mind there are several versions of Reader Rabbit 1. I recommend v3.0, which comes with color graphics and does not require the original floppy every time the program is launched (I also have v2.2, which is in monochrome and needs the floppy). Gizmos and Gadgets claims to require a 68030, but does run on the original 68020-based LC.

On a hardware-related note, what monitor are you using with your LC? If you've got anything larger than the 12" RGB (512 x 384 resolution), you'll definitely want to stick with System 6. Some of these programs run in windows and it would be extremely easy for an inexperienced user to return to the Finder inadvertently with a poorly-placed mouse click. A few do allow for this to be hidden (Kid Pix comes to mind), but for now I'd recommend single Finder unless you have a program requiring System 7, in which case it may be wise to either partition your hard drive or keep two versions of the system on your drive, using a program such as System Picker to select the version you wish to boot with. (Do not install two SSW versions on the same volume together without a System Picker-type program).

If you wanted to use At Ease, you would need System 7, but I'd recommend against that unless you're seriously short on RAM for whatever reason (it uses less than the Finder; I've used it to maximize 2MB systems in conjunction with the DiskTop DA, which acts as a Finder substitute). However, since he's got to learn the ins and outs of the GUI, he may as well start with the older Mac--many elements have not changed much from System 6 to OS X/Windows 7 and he can gain familiarity and confidence with the processes of file management as a result. Make sure to teach him about backing up data at a young age!

 
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