Apple II gs the best Apple computer ever.

[blakespot]

My IIgs is actually a ROM 3 motherboard inside a pristine Woz case. Best of both worlds, as I see it.

blakespot

 

[chris]

/me has a horribly beaten up ROM 03 GS. It was a school computer and it has 'Foreign Language Dept.' melted into the front. It's actually not too bad other than that.

 

[aftermac]

Glad you were able to procure a drive chris!

 

[foody]

Out of curiosity, isn't ROM 1 better than ROM 3 for software compatibilities?

 

[magnusfalkirk]

I had to go look through a few discussions on comp.sys.apple2 to get a definitive aswer to your question.

Out of curiosity, isn't ROM 1 better than ROM 3 for software compatibilities?

The ROM 1 is better if you want to be able to run ALL the programs that were released for the Apple IIGS. When they released the ROM 3 version there was some of the early GS stuff that wouldn't run on it because of "bugs" in the ROM that were fixed in the ROM 3.

Of course the ROM 3 offers the advantage of larger amount of RAM, 1MB built in vs 256K, 256k ROM vs 128K ROM, ability to use the slots without losing the built in port i.e. put a card in slot 4 and still use the mouse in GS/OS, etc.

So it comes down to a matter of taste. I've got a ROM 1 GS but I've also got a ROM 3 motherboard that I'm considering putting into the case.

Cheers,

Dean

 

[foody]

magnusfalkirk thank you so much I am sticking with ROM 1 as I only need 1 MB of RAM + 256K build in to the motherboard to run ALL APPLE II AND GS games.

 

[Moofo]

I have a an Apple IIgs with an Applied Ingenuity 20 Mb HD, a PC Transporter CArd, the SCSI Card and a GS RAM CArd with 2 meg.

I have an unidisk and an Apple 800k Drive as well.

I'm thinking of selling it on ebay, anyone have an idea how much it"S worth ?

 

[Mike Richardson]

If I could only find out how to make those damned .2mg files work on a real gs...

They're byte-for-byte images of 3.5" diskettes with a (typically) 64 byte header tacked on to them. You'd need to get them written back to a physical floppy either by:

• 1) Sending the 2img file to the IIgs via a telecomms package, then using a program called Asimov (

http://www.ninjaforce.com/html/products.html)
2) Having a program like ADTPro that directly transmits to and writes the disk on the IIgs (http://adtpro.sourceforge.net)

Can they be written on a Mac instead? It's easy to download the files to an old Mac with a floppy drive. For writing images to 5.25 disks I have to use the most convoluted process involving booting off an 800K disk (made on the Mac) on the IIGS that has ProDOS and Asimov, then putting in another disk with the 140K images, then having Asimov write the images. Of course because of some $4B error you can't just put the disk images straight into the 800K disk on the Mac. First you have to put them into a Stuffit 1.5.1 file and boot GS SHRINKIT and have it expand them. Then Asimov will actually work with those disk images that were expanded.

 

[magnusfalkirk]

Can they be written on a Mac instead? It's easy to download the files to an old Mac with a floppy drive. For writing images to 5.25 disks I have to use the most convoluted process involving booting off an 800K disk (made on the Mac) on the IIGS that has ProDOS and Asimov, then putting in another disk with the 140K images, then having Asimov write the images. Of course because of some $4B error you can't just put the disk images straight into the 800K disk on the Mac. First you have to put them into a Stuffit 1.5.1 file and boot GS SHRINKIT and have it expand them. Then Asimov will actually work with those disk images that were expanded.

Got to: http://adtpro.sourceforge.net/ and download the latest copy of ADTPro. With this program, and the right serial cables, you can connect your GS to your Mac and transfer the disk images to the GS which will write them to a 5.25 disk or 3.5 disk as part of the transfer program.

With ADTPro you can eliminate the hastle you seem to currently have trying to get your Apple II programs from the Mac backto the GS.

Just a thought,

Dean

 

[foody]

@magnusfalkirk

Can Apple II gs read Macintosh diskette even the latest iMac or extract compressed Macintosh files?

 

[Mike Richardson]

Can they be written on a Mac instead? It's easy to download the files to an old Mac with a floppy drive. For writing images to 5.25 disks I have to use the most convoluted process involving booting off an 800K disk (made on the Mac) on the IIGS that has ProDOS and Asimov, then putting in another disk with the 140K images, then having Asimov write the images. Of course because of some $4B error you can't just put the disk images straight into the 800K disk on the Mac. First you have to put them into a Stuffit 1.5.1 file and boot GS SHRINKIT and have it expand them. Then Asimov will actually work with those disk images that were expanded.

Got to: http://adtpro.sourceforge.net/ and download the latest copy of ADTPro. With this program, and the right serial cables, you can connect your GS to your Mac and transfer the disk images to the GS which will write them to a 5.25 disk or 3.5 disk as part of the transfer program.

With ADTPro you can eliminate the hastle you seem to currently have trying to get your Apple II programs from the Mac backto the GS.

Just a thought,

Dean

The Mac that I use right now to write the 800K IIGS disks is a 7200. ADTPro server seems to run only on OS X. So I would have to set up a special Beige G3 which has serial ports and can run OS X, or buy a USB to serial.

 

[magnusfalkirk]

@magnusfalkirk
Can Apple II gs read Macintosh diskette even the latest iMac or extract compressed Macintosh files?

The GS can read Mac HFS disks. Unless you have a Superdrive hooked up to the GS you can only read 800k HFS floppies. If you have a way to hook up a hard disk or CD ROM drive to the GS you can read Mac HFS hard drives or CD-ROMs.

Dean

 

[Mike Richardson]

Macs can also read and write ProDOS, but only OS 9 or older. It may be possible to use an OS X Mac with a USB floppy drive, and a Superdrive on the GS, to exchange files that way.

 

[dbraverman88]

After seeing the pictures, I have to say ...

I want one too!

 

[foody]

You want an Apple II gs you mean?