A trash can.... Mac :)

quinterro

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It appears I had the fan blowing in the wrong direction. Now that the fan is blowing up the Mac Pro appears to be stable.
 

quinterro

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Until it isn’t.

It is still crashing partway through the install. Well the important thing was to remove my account, which has been done.
 

quinterro

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It has been boxed up and dropped off at the Post Office. God speed Mac Pro, and may you return to the seller swiftly.

In the meantime, the replacement I purchased is still listed as “Tracking Available” on eBay - 6 days after purchase. Apparently the post office it was dropped off at was swamped and the building was full.

I have been getting some emails from the postal service and it may show up Monday.

This one is also a 6-core model with the dual D500 GPUs, but with 16GB memory and 500GB storage. I have a 64GB set of memory waiting for it when it arrives. Hopefully the fan works this time.
 

Byrd

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Hope it works. Have been tempted to buy a complete Trashcan from US for parts, some great deals they come cheaper than Australian offerings even with crazy shipping prices. Price is rock bottom now and they will become a nice collectable Mac in time. And whatever model you get not expensive to max out.
 

CC_333

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I was just looking up the specs on the 2013 Mac Pro, and I just noticed that apparently there's an Apple Silicon model now. How did I miss that?

Goes to show how uninteresting Apple has become. They release a new system and nobody seems to care.

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Byrd

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@CC_333 that makes two of us - had no idea it existed, what’s the point with all those slots you can’t plug anything into notably a good GPU?
 

CC_333

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what’s the point with all those slots you can’t plug anything into notably a good GPU?
Beats me.

I'm sure there's lots of useful stuff that can go in those slots, but for the average user, being able to upgrade the GPU is a helpful feature.

Non-upgradeable RAM is a problem too. Why have such a large, fancy, expensive machine if you can't upgrade anything?

At least the SSD can be upgraded. How exciting!

I read that performance is identical to the much smaller and far cheaper Mac Studio. Why is Apple doing this?

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Jase

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I have been looking at Mac Pros for a while, and finally purchased a 2013 Mac Pro.

While the older cheese grater towers would have been nice to have, I don't have the room for one and they aren't exactly power efficient. I'm hoping this one is somewhat frugal.

Will it replace my Ryzen mini PC? Probably not. It's probably faster than the Mac Pro, but I won't be able to confirm until Friday when it arrives.
Will it replace my A10 6700-based system? Probably, but I don't want to get rid of it just yet.

The 2012 iMac still works, but even with an upgraded i7 CPU it's sluggish with MacOS Sequoia.

I bought one a while ago from eBay and I'm really happy with it. They're often maligned and I think that's a shame because they're solid machines, provided that you avoided the models which overheat. The availability of 6 Thunderbolt ports was a big draw for me.

there's no expand-ability without an expensive outboard PCIe box.

If you're patient enough, they can be found pretty cheaply. :)
 

Hopfenholz

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I was just looking up the specs on the 2013 Mac Pro, and I just noticed that apparently there's an Apple Silicon model now. How did I miss that?

Goes to show how uninteresting Apple has become. They release a new system and nobody seems to care.

c
You mean the 2019-onwards cheese grater tower format, rather than the trash can?
 

CC_333

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You mean the 2019-onwards cheese grater tower format, rather than the trash can?
Yes, but the 2023-present variant that is apparently AS-based.

Apple has, in my opinion, become very ho-hum.

Indeed, the computer industry as a whole has gotten rather boring too. Save for Google's recent quantum computing breakthrough, of course. That's worthy of getting excited about.

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treellama

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Have you used an Apple Silicon computer? They are absurdly fast, quiet, and cool. The laptops wake instantly, run for 14+ hours on battery. One of the biggest improvements to personal computers since I’ve begun using them in the 1990’s. Just because you’re not paying attention, doesn’t mean nobody cares.
 

Daniël

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What would have made the AS Mac Pro "exciting"? A new enclosure?
Because honestly, Apple finally has got a clue about their products and their appeal by not changing it, leaving it open for those who want gobs of PCIe expansion options.

Those who want a smaller size pro desktop, need not worry, because Apple wisely released the Mac Studio as a separate product rather than having it replace the Cheesegrater.
 

macuserman

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I bought one of these in February as well, and have been using it as an upgrade to my 2014 mac mini. In hindsight the new mac mini would probably have been a much better choice, but here we are. It is an interesting piece to own, but probably not a wise financial decision. lol
 

SparrowRat

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I think Apple Silicon is really designed for laptops, which it excels at. Not very good for desktops, unless electricity is REALLY expensive where you live.
 

joshc

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I think Apple Silicon is really designed for laptops, which it excels at. Not very good for desktops, unless electricity is REALLY expensive where you live.
Why does the Mac Studio or latest Mac Minis not qualify as very good?
 

SparrowRat

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I'm not saying they aren't good computers, I'm saying Apple Silicon laptops are the best laptops available on the market, and the desktops are too expensive for the performance they get.
 

joshc

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I'm not saying they aren't good computers, I'm saying Apple Silicon laptops are the best laptops available on the market, and the desktops are too expensive for the performance they get.
The Mac mini with an M4 chip starts at $600, I don’t know how it performs vs x86 stuff but I’ve heard it’s extremely fast.
 

SparrowRat

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The Mac mini with an M4 chip starts at $600, I don’t know how it performs vs x86 stuff but I’ve heard it’s extremely fast.
I didn't really look at the benchmarks for this one released (I was focused on how small it is :D) but looking now I have to concede. This is a really good computer! If you are doing anything but gaming, (and you don't hate MacOS) this is a no-brainer.
 
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