Hermes BBS install

[Byte Knight]

Hey, this is Will the original creator of Hermes. Really for the first time lately, I have been going through in detail all the drops I got from malyn. I can do a lot of things and put up a lot of things, but just figuring out what to prioritize for now.

Hey Will - great to see you on here! And great to see Hermes moving forward again.

I am no fan of the new Externals system. One, I just would never have changed it without compatibility. Two, nobody used it so nobody cares. Three, every external was written for the old system so why would you ever change it. I don't get it. Just causes problems. In principle, I could take the clean 3.5.11 code and just switch it back to the old Externals system. That can't be more than a day or two of work as the old external system looks like what I added originally anyway. Call it 3.5.12. The serial number code was extracted and removed a while ago, so it would be a nice clean final release assuming nobody cares about Python. Since I am not running the old Support BBS yet, my ability to test is very limited though.

I'd be in favor of you doing this, since being able to have TCP/IP connections along with having the most compatible door games would make for the ultimate BBS. Also, I'm planning on setting up Hermes with AppleTalk connections over the GlobalTalk network, and v3.1.1 doesn't work but v3.5.11 does. And I'm happy to test out the new version.

 

[jmacz]

@Byte Knight I have a quick (maybe stupid) question. Your Captain’s Quarters BBS page has instructions for old Macs with modems to use Z term and to atdt to a url/port. How does that work exactly?

 

[Byte Knight]

@Byte Knight I have a quick (maybe stupid) question. Your Captain’s Quarters BBS page has instructions for old Macs with modems to use Z term and to atdt to a url/port. How does that work exactly?

If you've got a wifi modem, you can use the terminal command "atdt cqbbs.ddns.net:6800" to connect. If you've got an old-school dial-up modem, you can connect via 2600.network with username / password captainsquartersii.

 

[jmacz]

If you've got a wifi modem, you can use the terminal command "atdt cqbbs.ddns.net:6800" to connect. If you've got an old-school dial-up modem, you can connect via 2600.network with username / password captainsquartersii.

Ah, thanks.

 

[Byte Knight]

Hey, this is Will the original creator of Hermes. Really for the first time lately, I have been going through in detail all the drops I got from malyn. I can do a lot of things and put up a lot of things, but just figuring out what to prioritize for now.

Any updates on this?

 

[MarisaG]

I have hermes up and running in sheepshaver and os9.0.4 and I can log in locally, but I have no idea what port it is listening on. Tried the official port 23, and 7075, but all I get is "connection refused" when I try and telnet in... Any ideas?

 

[MarisaG]

I have hermes up and running in sheepshaver and os9.0.4 and I can log in locally, but I have no idea what port it is listening on. Tried the official port 23, and 7075, but all I get is "connection refused" when I try and telnet in... Any ideas?

Forgot to say I am running it as root so it's not a permission issue.

 

[adespoton]

Forgot to say I am running it as root so it's not a permission issue.

What host are you running it on? You'll want to check for open listening ports bound to the SheepShaver process.

 

[Byte Knight]

I have hermes up and running in sheepshaver and os9.0.4 and I can log in locally, but I have no idea what port it is listening on. Tried the official port 23, and 7075, but all I get is "connection refused" when I try and telnet in... Any ideas?

You've gotta set up Basilisk II like so: https://www.emaculation.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=8583. I don't know that it works with SheepShaver.

 

[Byte Knight]

What host are you running it on? You'll want to check for open listening ports bound to the SheepShaver process.

Hey, I just noticed that you're in that old Emaculation thread that I posted above! What's your experience with Hermes BBS?

 

[adespoton]

Hey, I just noticed that you're in that old Emaculation thread that I posted above! What's your experience with Hermes BBS?

Used to run one a long LONG time ago, but my experience is more with BII/SS server configuration MarisaG's got lots of other services up and running on the same config though; Hotline hasn't been an issue, for example, and neither has FirstClass Server.

 

[MarisaG]

What host are you running it on? You'll want to check for open listening ports bound to the SheepShaver process.

I use netstat to check listening ports but I don't see Sheepshaver process listed... Im on Ubuntu.

 

[MarisaG]

RESOLVED - I needed to add the proper "redir" config setting... Inbound now works

 

[MarisaG]

Used to run one a long LONG time ago, but my experience is more with BII/SS server configuration MarisaG's got lots of other services up and running on the same config though; Hotline hasn't been an issue, for example, and neither has FirstClass Server.

Thanks for the mention For Hotline I use the "mobius" server software, FirstClass I use 3.51 in OS7.5.5 in Basilisk II.

 

[Byte Knight]

So Will Price sent me a cracked version of Hermes v2.2 to play around with. The story behind the cracked version that Will sent me is interesting in itself:

The part I’m 100% sure about is that I sold a hard drive in an actual newspaper listing around the 1991 timeframe. I deleted everything on the hard drive and then someone bought it and I think I shipped it to them. Little did I know, that person undeleted the files which included Hermes BBS source code of the era. It then became a slightly competing product. Whether it was Public Address, Second Sight, or something else I can’t remember.

The Readme file that accompanies v2.2 is hilarious. From the dude who cracked it:

Don't ask me how I got this, just be glad I did.

Anyway, I was able to get about 60 of the Externals working from @icbrkr's collection that he posted a few pages back. Basically all of the .cpt files work with v2.2, but only a small minority of them are games - most are BBS mods. My favorite newly discovered External has to be GARLD, which stands for Guns and Roses Lyric Displayer!

 

[Byte Knight]

Some more good Hermes stuff (thanks to @joevt for unstuffing!) from AMUG BBS in a Box vol 22. These are two issues of Hermes External Newsletter which contain instructions on how to create doors for Hermes among other things. I wonder if there were more than two issues? There's nothing Hermes related on the AMUG DVD from '00 which is the next volume I could find after 22...