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NEW Injection Molded - iMac G3 Inner Bezels
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Who cares? Let them hash it out. maceffects is a typical businessman/used car salesman type and derek is your typical Internet brat. I can see both sides, and I like neither. Like someone said, how important is it to save waves upon throngs of G3 iMacs? Let maceffects peddle his possibly-overpriced wares to those who think it’s worth it and if it truly is a labor of love for derek to save these relics, let him create his STL files and release them to the community for free.
Isn’t that free market capitalism?
DISCLAIMER: I don’t know anything about either party beyond what’s posted in this thread.
Isn’t that free market capitalism?
DISCLAIMER: I don’t know anything about either party beyond what’s posted in this thread.
I'd still rather have Mos Eisley, than the forum that got its definition of "democratic" from the Democratic People's Republic of Korea. But different strokes for different folks, and all that I suppose.
This place went to shit after JDW and Cameron Kaiser left. I also miss Uniserver (Charles), despite being a crazy bastard.
It got a whole lot less drama-filled, actually, without a drop in activity. Always found that to be amusing. Occasionally there's a thread like this blowing up, but I prefer that over the pre-2021 state of things.
Is there even a backup of that?
Some things are better lost to time.
Anyways, hopefully you guys never run into a creeping corruption bug, that's total nightmare fuel and I would actually emphasize with y'all if that happened, because that would be the welcoming and diverse way of doing things.
EDIT: To get back on-topic from this silliness, there have been some legitimate points of criticism towards MacEffects made, but c'mon guys, there's a way to do it. And seeing how this thread blew up with six pages in such a short time span, I think we can safely agree that this ain't it.
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You keep talking about your expert in this field. Can you Seriosuly tell me with all of this effort, machinery and treatment needed you’re somehow going to do all this for less then the $100 just to buy one that’s a near perfect replica?
Your grammar is really terrible.
Who ever said this is about getting the least costly solution? Nobody ever implied that this was about cost at any point.
Odd you got that impression somehow.
So I gather you haven't finished drawing yet then.
You asked that again not very long ago, do you need it explained again? Weird to repeat yourself over and over like this.
I am a manufacturing engineer by day.
Plastic FDM printing is pretty much the absolute lowest quality method to manufacture anything. It's appeal is that it is cheap and easy with a very low barrier to entry and enables just about anyone to make things that they couldn't otherwise.
The amount of man hours, equipment overhead, knowledge and experience that goes into properly reverse engineering something and taking that to proper manufacture is significant. When injection molds need to be designed and manufactured, the costs can very quickly run into the tens of thousands and increase exponentially as the complexity of the product increases.
If MacEffects wants to preserve his intellectual property rights over what he's done, then he is answerable to no-one and is 100% within his rights to do so, and I fully support his position.
He never said there was a concern over intellectual property rights.
As a couple others have done you are arguing from a false premise.
You continued a discussion and then expressed amazement that the discussion has continued. Extremely bizarre.
Also as a manufacturing engineer why did you say FDM is the absolute lowest quality possible method to manufacture anything when this is objectively false.
Is it because you actually aren't knowledgeable, or are you stating something factually incorrect for the purpose of emphasis or something
FDM printing with ABS produces extremely strong objects. we are discussing a structural element in a computer, not a decorative ornament. For the application being discussed FDM printing with ABS is one of a few optimal methods of manufacture in fact.
Can you explain why you argued your point from the foundation of a falsehood?
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I think we're at the point where you should go ahead and bring your competing product to the market.
This is your "put up, or shut up" moment.
Think the thread was fine until @derekdavidkent showed up with his holier than thou premise.
Maybe MacEffects didn't mention IP because you dont seem to care about it. You just seem to have an answer for everything.
Maybe MacEffects didn't mention IP because you dont seem to care about it. You just seem to have an answer for everything.
Yes, it was fine. I've no horse in this race, but I would hate to see this thread locked because of one idiot who believes he is naturally entitled to the fruits of someone else's labours and a few bandwagoneers who appear to have a chip on their shoulder about the OP.
Believe me, you are far from the first person I've encountered in my career who, in spite of having zero knowledge or experience of how things are made, is 100% committed to the idea that cheap filament extruder printers are the magic solution to every manufacturing problem
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