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Apple /// Repair Help Needed

fri0701

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I recently bought an Apple /// (256k model), Monitor ///, Disk /// external drive, manuals, and software. All of the units are cosmetically in amazing condition (no yellowing, no keys missing, etc). However, the /// itself doesn't work. What's strange is when I first turned it on, the computer started perfectly (it said something on the screen, maybe "retry"? I can't remember). After turning it off and coming back to it only about five minutes later, I flipped the switch only to find a screen full of garbled, flashing pixels. The internal drive's light comes on for a split second before turning back off, and the speaker emits a faint buzzing noise that changes pitch slightly when the pixels on the screen do (about three times a second). Sometimes when I turn on the machine, the screen is dark and the speaker is quiet until I hold control-reset; other times it goes straight to the garbled screen and buzzing noise. I tested the /// with another monitor I knew was working correctly, and the same flashing pattern was displayed.

I then set out to try to fix the problem. I took off the top case and found a heavily corroded battery pack clamped to the case (for the clock add-on). I removed the pack and disconnected it from the motherboard, since I wasn't planning on using the clock anyways. I examined the power supply, which is in full working order. I then took out the motherboard and everything seemed fine at first (no corrosion from the batteries in the clock battery pack had touched the motherboard, luckily). No capacitors on the motherboard or power supply looked like they were bulging or exploded. However, I noticed after a while that some chips on the board (around 7-8 of them) had a sort of black tarnish-like material coating the legs which could be scraped off by a screwdriver. I then took the time and painstakingly removed every chip on the motherboard, cleaned the legs with an eraser (or, if it was a tarnished chip, an emery board), dusted off the socket and reseated them. I also cleaned and reseated all of the chips on the RAM daughterboard (and the daughterboard itself). After doing this, I plugged everything back in and tested the system. Nothing had changed since my last attempt, sadly.

I'm at a bit of a loss of what to do next here. I'd really like to get this /// up and running soon, so if anyone has any ideas of what's going on or how to fix it, please let me know!

Photos available upon request.

 
I had a similar problem with a /// that went away when reseating (and pushing down) the RAM daugtherboard and all its RAM chips.

 
It screams of power supply issues. You have no way to say the PSU is in good condition until you are positive the voltage rails are good under load and there is no excessive current ripple. If you have not given it a recap, do that now. Old caps might look fine but after nearly 30 years they usually need unavoidable replacement. My II+ was the same way. Same with my ProFile.

 
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Why did Steve Jobs have to be such a jerk when it came to cooling fans? Most of the issues with these things are the result of overheating leading to parts failing. 

 
Why did Steve Jobs have to be such a jerk when it came to cooling fans? Most of the issues with these things are the result of overheating leading to parts failing. 
As I understand it - it was because, in his view, they were inelegant, noisy, and detracted from the Apple experience.  Physics be damned, it would be nice if we didn't need to dissipate heat.

 
I am having the same exact issues with my apple 3 almost to the T. If you have solved this issue please let me know what you tried. I noticed my power supply is making some weird noises so I think the first step for me is to get that stabilized.

I will look into getting the capacitors replaced.

I have already reseated the chips and ram but I'll play around with that some more to see if that will help.

The sad thing for me is it was working great before I cleaned it and replaced a blown stinky cap in the power supply. I got it looking really nice... Flipped the switch to no video. I was really disappointed.

If anyone has any other possible solutions let me know :)

Thanks I appreciate it a lot!!!

 
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