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2010 Mac Pro 12-Core - $300

olePigeon

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I won this one at my local surplus auction.  I discovered this gem amongst a bunch of 1,1 Mac Pros and G5s.  I think whatever company that surplussed it accidentally included it with the obsolete machines, because a dual hex core Westmere Xeon is a perfectly good machine.  Has 8GB of ECC RAM, DVD-RW Superdrive, and a 1GB Radeon HD 5770.  With one video card upgrade, this machine would be perfect for a developer.  Would support the new Metal API.

Just got it home.  Looks like it was rackmounted at one point, so must've been a server.  All the HDDs were removed and punched, as expected.  Tested all the ports and plugs, they all work.  Ran AHT, passed hardware inspection.

Installed a Samsung 850 EVO and El Capitan.  Works great!

 
Very nice score! Is the 850 EVO your current go-to for SSDs? I have a couple 840 and 840 EVOs in my SATA I machines, and while the throughput is limited by the bus, response time and IOPS are insanely fast. My 17" '06 C2D iMac boots 10.7.5 to the login screen in less than 15 seconds.

 
850 EVO is currently my goto because it's a drop-in replacement for Macs.  It doesn't have the TRIM corruption issues that the non EVO 840 and 850 have, and it doesn't have that weird limitation where in many model Macs you can only format it over USB.  It won't format over SATA, which makes the 840 EVO difficult to work with on a laptop.

It's fun putting SSDs in older Macs.  I have some 2009 white unibody MacBooks, and with 8GBs of RAM and an SSD, they run El Capitan like butter. :)

 
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Very good to know! I think I'm exempt from those issues on my mid-late '06 Macs, but will bear that in mind with newer gear.

I threw a Sandforce based OCZ in my grandmother's iMac G4 a few years ago with a PATA adapter and it's been rock solid. The HD was just getting too noisy.

 
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Yeah. The aforementioned MacBooks are teacher laptops.  We were looking for inexpensive ways to upgrade them and make them useful, and I discovered that they can actually go up to16GBs of RAM (which is nuts).  We settled on 8GBs and a 256GB SSD.  You wouldn't know they're still Core 2 Duo machines. :)

Those 2009 MacBooks were a great investment.  Too bad we didn't get more of them, but with how quickly Apple usually deprecates older models, we never expected these puppies to last this long.  Latest OS on a 6-year-old machine is unheard of in the current Apple world.

I expect to do similar upgrades with our 2012-2015 MacBook Pros.  All the other models are integrated RAM & HDD, and that looks to be the future.

 
Wow! Nice find!!

So, what are you going to do with it?

Will it be your main desktop machine, or are you going to upgrade it to death and sell it onward for a profit?

I'm extremely happy with my '08 Mac Pro (I just got a Radeon HD 5770 for it, hoping it would support Metal. To my disappointment, it does not :-/ ), but I sometimes think that it would be nice to have a spare (or to make the '08 the spare if I come across a better machine), so if you do decide to sell it, let me know. If I have enough money, I might be interested.

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Oh, and I am presently typing this on a Mid-2010 Unibody MacBook. It's a nice machine, now. it had suffered through a bad liquid spill when I got it, so it took a bit of work to get it in working order, and I STILL have broken keys, even after I tried three different keyboards (left shift, control and option are dead, which makes using Windows a particular pain, because it relies on the control key for all its key combinations; I'll have to look into remapping things so I can workaround that problem). I was able to bring the logic board back to life by soaking and scrubbing it in isopropyl alcohol, though.

I especially like the display, which is bright and crisp (there's some uneveness in the backlight, but who cares? It looks fine for the most part).

So, if you ever need new keycaps, I have two complete sets :)

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I put the SSD in it and ordered 2 HDD trays for it, but I already have a tentative sale for it on Craigslist.  I put it up this morning and got an email just a few hours later, the gentleman is gonna stop by today after work.

The 5770 supported Metal during the betas, but it was bumped off the list before release  I've read online people discussing disabling the video card check to enable Metal on the 5770.

 
That's good!

I hope the sale goes well.

Anyway, I'd like to know how to bypass that video card check, so I can enjoy Metal, should I upgrade to 10.11 (I'm sticking to 10.9 for as long as I can).

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I think it's worthing upgrading to 10.11.  It's more streamlined than 10.10, and works just fine.  It's not any slower than 10.10, you just don't get the benefits of Metal is all.  If/when you get a newer video card, you'll see an increase in performance.

You can find GTX 680 (must be CUDA version, not the $60 Chinese version) for $200 on eBay.  That's currently the best video card for the Mac Pro that (theoretically) supports Metal.

 
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Fantastic find, a keeper Mac for at least 5 years I reckon.

When they were still "good" 3-4 years ago, I scored a 2,1 Mac Pro in a similar vein - sold with two 1.8 G5s in an auction.  $56.  It's still my main machine, I'm about to treat it to dual 3.0Ghz quad core Xeons next.

JB

 
I'd 've kept it for sure, but my work is very generous with my computer.  They let me use a 2011 15" Core i7 MacBook Pro which meets or exceeds my needs.

 
I've never been to any kind of surplus auction, hence why I am asking. I have been to a storage auction a year or two ago when Storage Wars was a bit more popular. Some people were bidding on a unit full of unmarked cardboard boxes for $300+. One guy said he was just walking to the convenience store to buy cigarettes and saw the auction, he ended up spending over $500. It was pretty interesting. 

How do you find out about private company auctions, or did you know someone who worked there?

 
I would think all auctions are advertised somehow or nobody would show up.

Mac Pros are nice looking ( same as the G5's before them) , the new trash can models make me gag.

 
With the price of quad core Xeon 5355s being $40 or less, and with 32 gigs of FB-DIMM memory being less than $100, those Mac Pro 1,1 machines are still very decent.

 
Congratulations! That's a pretty great find.

Looks like it was rackmounted at one point, so must've been a server.
Hot on the tail of the discontinuation of the XServe in 2009, both the Mac mini and the Mac Pro gained more emphasized server configurations. If I remember correctly, without just going to look, the Radeon 5770 was the video card they put in the Mac Pro server. Because, you know, a 100-watt video card is a totally efficient piece to use in a server. I suspect the reasoning was that it didn't really require any physical re-tooling on Apple's part at all.

The idea at the time, as far as I can tell, was that few people were buying xserves for reasons where it really made sense to have an xserve, or they were buying only one xserve. So either racking some minis or some Mac Pros (or using a Mac Pro deskside) was going to make more sense, and it was going to cost Apple less to build.

The one bummer about Westmere (especially for a dev box) is that you want more RAM, and RAM for that platform is expensive (but really this will probably apply to any big server or workstation with ECC RAM). 16-gig sticks for my westmere server are at about $113 now, and that's as low as I've ever seen it.

Yeah. The aforementioned MacBooks are teacher laptops.  We were looking for inexpensive ways to upgrade them and make them useful, and I discovered that they can actually go up to16GBs of RAM (which is nuts).  We settled on 8GBs and a 256GB SSD.  You wouldn't know they're still Core 2 Duo machines. :)
16 gigs of RAM on a Core2Duo laptop you say? Have you tested and confirmed this works? I was recently looking into bigger RAM upgrades for one of my old Core2Duo machines, and would find it super intriguing if it worked. Perhaps I should buy my Mac mini an upgrade and just pop it into the ThinkPad to see what happens.

Anyway, I'd like to know how to bypass that video card check, so I can enjoy Metal, should I upgrade to 10.11 (I'm sticking to 10.9 for as long as I can).
In addition to the fact that Apple stopped patching known critical vulnerabilities in 10.9 well before the release of 10.11, it's worth upgrading to 10.11 because so far it has been faster and more reliable than any previous version of Mac OS X I've ever used on all hardware Iv'e used it on, including the "Late 2007" MacBook pro. It has even produced a visible speed-up in things like launching apps on demo computers in stores.

I expect to do similar upgrades with our 2012-2015 MacBook Pros.  All the other models are integrated RAM & HDD, and that looks to be the future.
2012-2015?

Are you still buying the 2012/Ivy Bridge 13-inch MacBook Pro? It is one of the weirder machines in Apple's lineup, if only because you can still pop the bottom off and little if anything is soldered. At my place of work (US public higher ed), there's really no effort put into upgrading older hardware, because it still costs more in support time and parts than buying newer systems outright, and with Apple both making OS X finally bearable with just 8 gigs of RAM In 10.11, and with most modern machines coming with SSDs (for cheaper than the 2012 MBP13 costs, new) we're just enforcing a five year lifecycle for anything with any importance.

Unless K12 remains completely destitute, the idea of an institution-wide program of upgrading machines from 2009 seems totally unfathomable to me.

It's really interesting to read about the institutional purchase of machines that appears to be geared toward exactly that. Do you do the purchasing, or the machines simply come from up on high? I'd be interested in hearing more about that.

 
Well, my school is odd.  We're in a very affluent neighborhood in the North Bay Area.  That means very high property taxes and operational costs, which means that only around 1% of our operating budget actually comes from the state.  So our district formed a Non Profit organization which accepts donations from the PTA (parents can't donate directly to the school, so they donate to the non-profit.  It's sort of a PAC for schools), and they raise about $3.5 million a year just to cover operating expenses.  Staff salaries are paid by the district.

The PTA has a Technology Committee which then decides how much money they'll give us and for what.  So if we're on a fixed budget, we try to get the best bang for our buck.  Since the district wants to remain an all-Apple district, hat means machines that are relatively easy to maintain and upgrade when we need to.  Since I'm on salary, it's only the cost of parts for us to upgrade and repair these machines.  Instead of buying a $2000 laptop, we've extended the life of our 2009 2010 MacBooks for another few years for around $150.

Last year we bought 250 GB Samsung 850 EVOs for all the staff laptops (got a nice discount and free shipping from B&H), and I'm in the process of upgrading all of those.  We also got a bunch of 2.5" USB enclosures for $5 each, so their old HDDs are then used as Time Machine backup.

We've also bought three laptop carts worth of Chromebooks.  Those machines are dropping like flies, and when they break, they're very rarely worth repairing.

By the way:  http://eshop.macsales.com/shop/memory/Apple_MacBook_MacBook_Pro/Upgrade/DDR3_White

16GB RAM kit for 2010 MacBook.  I had the wrong year, but, yeah, Core 2 Duo MacBooks.

 
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