PRAGMA- TiBook G4
InfoBOX - 7300
MediaBOX - 6500
siSTATION/siSERVE/siCLONE - IIsi (uses all 3 at different times)
Hamtaro - iMac *looks like a hamster
Flats - 6100 I had....
Useless - I'm SO SORRY I named a mac this... but I simply had NO use for a performa 600...
SEfdhd - LITTLElittle Mom wanted to call it this because sometimes I repeat words under(under) my breath because I like to say them or something...Little(little) is one of the ones that this happens alot too

AspireBE - Acer Aspire, BeOS
WhuzzerBE Gateway - Gateway computer whan it was my main

Intrikit Weaver - Any computer what is my "main server" currently is the Gateway Computer......

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Hamtaro - iMac *looks like a hamster

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or just 4

So, since then even though from time to time I have been using PC's, I still have had macs around, although to be honest I find that in some respects you sorta need a PC around (iether emulated or real) in order to not lose all sanity when it comes to doing business because people always send you PC formats. Ie; if it's easy to do and requires less work during step 1, then it must be the best way to go even if it requires 10 steps in step 2 alone.

Most PC people have no idea the amount of intelligence that is lacking. They still use the 3 character extensions, something that is an abhorance. They still think sending documents in proprietory formats that no-one can open makes business sense, they think paying thousands of dollars extra per machine each year in support costs justifies thier investment.

Oh well, some people never learn.

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Give your dreams a chance.™ - Apple in the mid '90s

MS word is basically the standard format (among the other MS formats)

it's odd the amount of mac people who will pay $79 for software that generates an incompatible format, and then they'll shell out another $100 or so to make that compatible just my thoughts..

actually, I don't spend thousands to maintainmy PCs or anything... I can see how a business might trick themselfes into thinking tha they need to... except the're so tight-rear ended that they probably DO need to pay...

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I can't really remember what the real first mac was I tried, but about when I was in grade 8 I sold my Pentium 200MMX machine for 300 dollars to the local PC store then went nextdoor to the mac store (owned by the same peopel) and bought a Centris 660Av. My first mac. I sold it some time ago, but since then I've had a few Macs.

So, since then even though from time to time I have been using PC's, I still have had macs around, although to be honest I find that in some respects you sorta need a PC around (iether emulated or real) in order to not lose all sanity when it comes to doing business because people always send you PC formats. Ie; if it's easy to do and requires less work during step 1, then it must be the best way to go even if it requires 10 steps in step 2 alone.

Most PC people have no idea the amount of intelligence that is lacking. They still use the 3 character extensions, something that is an abhorance. They still think sending documents in proprietory formats that no-one can open makes business sense, they think paying thousands of dollars extra per machine each year in support costs justifies thier investment.

Oh well, some people never learn.

Great minds...Great minds...Think Different.

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if I had a small busines, I'd maintain the PCs myself

After a brief intorduction to the System 6.0.2 / Multifinder GUI, there it was - the most useful computer I had ever operated!

Then the SCSI drive started sticking in the Mac II which the PC board designer was using... a different tech got a disk dirve to replace it, and I went from 10 meg SCSI in an external box to 40 meg SCSI sitting on the desktop..... you could only start the drive by rapping the case so as to shake the heads loose from the platters.... the classic Quantum sticition problem, but exchange was denied for the serial number of my drive. Then the upgrade to 4 megs, then several versions of system 6, then 7.0, then the 7.01 tune up.... sigh. Those were the days: drive to the local Apple retailer, make copies of the system disks, take the copies back to work and revel in the improvements!

Alas, that Mac fried its analog board, I got laid off, and the next employer was towing the M$ line.... I still yearned, though, and the collection grew.

Now, I r Slackware Linux on and AMD Athlon, but the collected Macs are still more useful than what I presently use under Linux.

snif - the good old days!

Mac+=4, MacSE=1, MacSE30=1, P400=1, PB520c=1, LCI=-1, LCII=-1, Q605=-1, Q650=1, UberQ950=1, Performa All-in-One=TBD PM7500=SQRT(-1).

Liberated 68xxx Macs: IIsi, IIci (2), LC II, Classic II (2)

Liberated PowerPC Macs:
Powerbook 5300cs, Power Mac 7500/100

I don't count the time spent with a IIe back in grade school

Back in 2000 a friend of mine was about to begin work on her dissertation. She had no comptuer at home and would have to wait for the Grad Student Lounge to open so that she could begin working on one of the macs up there ... if all 3 of them weren't taken.

I had just landed my current job. I had some extra money. I gave myself a $250 budget to see what kind of mac I could buy for her. It had to be a laptop and it had to have a floppy so she could take work between school and home.

I started researching macs. I discovered LEM.

I bought her a PB 540c.

I played with it to make sure it worked. It was kind of fun.

I saved my money and bought myself a PB133 with OS 8.1 on it. It saved my bacon when my PC went down due to a motherboard failure. (PB 133 since adopted to loving home)

I didn't much care for classic OS, but I enjoyed learning a new OS and OS X intrigued me. Got a 7600 dirt cheap and played with 8.1 and used it as a back up comptuer. ("Phoenix" since adopted to a loving home.)

Played with OS X when I finally found a computer that booted into it at a comp USA, saw how much it completly rocked, got an iBook for Xmas 2001.

I especially enjoy running X.1 server (still trying to make it kinda work) on the 7300

Then my friend got an IBM PCjr and I learned DOS ins and outs on that.

When the time came for me to get a new computer, I was torn between a PC and a Mac, but I had spent many hours playing with the Tandys at RadioShack, so I ended up getting one of those.

I ended up associating with a bunch of people who somehow all hated Macs, even though they had all used them. The high school I went to was all Mac, but the computer maintenance program through the local vocational center tought PC maintenance because by that time, PC had acquired the majority of the market. I ended up being with all the people who hated Macs and cursed them along with them so I would fit in.

So anyway, I had acquired the habit of going around on garbage night to see what goodies might have been left for me, and one night, there it was, a Performa 631CD w/Multiple Scan 14/kb/mouse. Unfortuantely, the cat found it before I did and left his mark. I washed it out thoroughly with soap and water, reassembled it, and it worked! All those memories of the LC III in the library started flooding back. I quickly lost interest, though, and it sat for a while.

Then one day at the local thrift store my eyes met a 5200CD. I thought, "now there's a great computer" and brought it home. I did some Googleing on the Internet to find system software and how to transfer it from a PC and found Gamba's home page, and eventually came here. The 5200CD wasn't all I though it was, but it started turning into a real hobby. Then I found an $8 Performa 6400 at the thrift store and that got me even more interested. I soon realized the limitations of this machine and thought it was time to get a "real Mac". So, I eBayed for a 7600 which turned out to have a 233MHz processor in it. By that time I was up to OS 8.6 and realized that it wouldn't run OSX very well. So I pieced together a Beige G3 233 and that brings us up to the present.

I still haven't "switched". I still use the PC more, I guess because it's newer and has an internal 56k modem. Oh yeah - it's got the 19" monitor. That's why I use it more. None of the Macs have a decent enough video to run it at 1280x1024. That and I guess I'm just stubborn, plus I've had bad experiences with OS9. To top it all off, I have way more software for PC. I guess I'm still torn between Mac and PC like I was from way back when. Some things never change.

The Lightning Stalker

Performa 631CD, 7.5.5
LC III Mail Server
Q610
Q650

6400/180 40/1.6G/512k L2/enet/video-in/TV
7600/120 '604/233, 80/1.2G & 4G, 9.2.2 (Main Mac)

Nick

The others:
Cr@p1nt0$h - Performa 5200CD
Rootie - 486 running Red Hat Linux v6.2
charmod - Celery 1.0 laptop
tank - PC with a full height hard drive that was built like a tank
zrvr - Novell 3.12 server, also a W2k server

Powerbook 140 - "Bean"
Mac IIsi - "Petra"
Centris 650 - "Peter"
Centris 610 - "Locke"
Mac Classic - "Valentine"
Mac Plus - "Demosthenes"
Performa 6200 - "Ender"
My PC/server is called, "Card"
And my poor, dead, 128k doesn't have a name yet. I'm considering another name from the series though, once I revive her.

It's not just a game anymore!

Nick

EDIT: And my other unnamed systems...
Apple IIgs ROM 01
Apple IIgs ROM 03
Commodore Plus/4
Atari 2600
Various PCs

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Mark Benson

FlatPackMacs http://fpm.gotdns.com

I always dreamed of having an 840av.

In the early 90´s I had an C64 (he is still at my home of course).

Then cameout these dreammachines as NeXT and the 840av. But these are not the size of my moneybag and so I bought an atari falcon, also a really cool machine! And still at home....

Then come years of PC crap-hardware-war´s, but someday I renewed my old dream.

Now-a-days these computers are not much expansive and so I got an 840av. Now I spend most of my time the 840av as the falcon too.

private lightsurfer, at your command!

Then in about 1996-7 or so; we got our SuperMac C600/180… [I was a little mad at my dad for buying while I was a few hundred miles away, visiting some cousins…]
That was our main computer, even after dad brought the 8500 home [the store failed stupid national company moving in, and bad economy…] he also used the 6100 from his store [he had gotten a G3 card for it] as a bribe for me to get some school work done ^_^'
[also in there somewhere, I got a Quadra 660av, 5260, IIsi, IIci, all for free since my school was moving up to iMacs ^_^ and when we moved into this house I found an LC III with a 14" monitor just sitting in the garage! ^_^]
FF>> Dad gets New iMac, sells 8500 [to my cousin, like I said], I buy 9500/G3/300 [Still using this thing ^_^ right now], I get the UMAX scanner that was the 8500's, and they EZ Flyer [Why? Why did SyQuest have to die? …]; later I got my 5300ce, and near the end of 10th grade [last school year], I learned of the Government surplus store! [computers/office equip by the pallet!]
and I got a Performa 6214CD, Quadra 950 Lazer writer 310 [still cant make it work…], 2x 7100/80's, another 5260, a 5400/120, A NeXT monitor [still cant use], 7100/80av, a bunch of PC monitors [15"-17", and one 19" that I didnt have a cable for]
also somewhere in there I got my SuperMac C600/240 [40GB HD!! ^_^; this computer is on 24/7 as my server/download computer]

The other day I sold the LC III, with a 12" monitor, Apple Extended Keyboard II, and mouse to Mike_Blast_dude ^_^ [It's good that it will get more use now]
oh, and I sold one of the 5260's at a PMUG swap meet [and got a Portable for free!]

Computer names… well I really don't use them much…
but:
•9500: Derekcat 9500 [the HDs are named Ext. Drive 1, APS 3GB, Drive 2, and Derek's (all the HDs are external except for Drive 2/Derek's which are a single Segate internal); all the HDs are low speed :/]
•SuperMac C600/240: Super Derekcat C600 [Im listing the names, by what they are in filesharing]; and the HD is also Derekcat Super C600
•The Rest of em: are pretty much Derekcat xxxx [model, ex 9500]

I always felt like it would be kinda wrong to name all the computers differntly… [except my 9500's HDs since it has more then one]

my Dad's workplace got a couple of Mac II's in 1987 and I remember going round there every so often to meet him after work (He's a desktop publisher/printer since before I was born).

I remember thinking that these were REALLY cool computers at the time (at home we had an Atari 800XL and a BBC Micro Model B at the time, though later that year we got an Amiga 500 which was also cool :P).

But it wasnt until late 1990 when we got a IIsi that I started to use one regularly. I remember that my dad got a 50mhz 030 accelerator and put 17mb in there running System 7.11. It was in that configuration for years until I brought home an unwanted IIci for him a few years back and he moved all the stuff over.

Funny story about that is that in the late 90s, I managed to find him a Daystar 601 card for the IIsi from the net but it wouldnt fit inside the IIsi with the two hard disks he'd wedged in there so he was just gonna start to hack the insides of the IIsi to pieces when I thought I'd better give him his Xmas present a week early :D... a IIci (abandoned at my then workplace) to put it all in!

Now the IIci and the IIsi are gathering dust unfortunately... Maybe I'll liberate them back if he doesnt sell them on ebay first! He's got a Beige G3/300/Tower running OS X 10.2.8. I think its the first time he's been uptodate with MacOS since he got the IIsi all those years ago.

I'm stuffed if I know, but Macs happened when I was in high school, we were still using Apple][s back then, and along came these two little boxes that looked like Vectrexes, with a weird little keyboard and a box with a button on it that moved a little arrow around a little screen, so you could click on little black and white pictures.

What a waste of time, the ][s were where it was at.

I've always wanted to have a bunch of the same kind of mac

I have different configurations of the same model, like the SE, and I have duplicates of other models as a source of spare parts. I simply don't have the room to snap up every abandoned mac I see, and it breaks my heart to pass them by (really, it does), but some sacrifices you have to make.

Aside from expanding my collection, I'm keeping an eye out for any early tombstone models I can find, 512, Plus and so on, so I can work toward my goal…

…don't laugh too hard, I'm being serious…

…I want there to be a fully functional Mac Plus 100 years from now, or, a 100 year old Mac Plus, whichever is easier, and I want to attempt it, because I can, so I figure since the Plus was intoduced in '86, so I have 83 years or so to go, and while i won't be around to see it, I think there are like-minded people out there who'd take over, after they've pried the mouse out of my cold, dead hand :-)

Should I post my collection list?

Vintage Classic Macs:
2x Macintosh 512 (One was a Mac 128 at some point)
2x Macintosh 512e
1x Macintosh Plus - Platinum Case - My First Liberated Mac
3x Macintosh SE ((800K Version) Various Configurations)
1x Macintosh SE FDHD
2x Macintosh SE/30 (One with a Dead PSU)
= 11 Liberated Vintage Classics

Modern Classic Macs:
1x Macintosh Classic
1x Macintosh Classic II
= 2 Liberated Modern Classics

LC Series Macs:
1x Macintosh LC
1x Macintosh LCII (2 MB Version)
2x Macintosh LCII (4 MB Version) - My First Mac - (1 Dead Motherboard)
1x Macintosh LCIII
2x Macintosh LC 475
= 7 Liberated LC's

Macintosh II Series Macs:
1x Macintosh II
1x Macintosh IIx
1x Macintosh IIsi
1x Macintosh IIcx (No PSU)
2x Macintosh IIci (Permanently retired) - My Second Mac

1x Macintosh IIvx
1x Macintosh IIfx
= 8 Liberated Mac II's

Performa Series Macs:
1x Macintosh Performa 250 - Running an Apple IIe card (flaky video)
1x Macintosh Performa 580CD - My Alarm Clock
1x Macontosh Performa 5260 (Video Startup problems)
= 3 Liberated Performas (1 Contraband PPC)

Powerbook Series Macs:
1x Powerbook 100
1x Powerbook 170
1x Powerbook 180c
1x Powerbook Duo 270c
1x Powerbook Duo 2300 (Upgraded from a 230) - (Dodgy keyboard)
1x Powerbook 1400cs/117
= 6 Liberated Powerbooks (1.5 Contraband PPCs)

Power Macintosh Series:
1x Power Macintosh 6100/60 (Dead PSU)
1x Power Macintosh 6100/66
1x Power Macintosh 7200/90 - My Third Mac
1x Power Macintosh 5400/120 - My MP3 Jukebox
1x Power Macintosh 5500/250 (Black)
1x Power Macintosh 8100/100
1x Power Macintosh G4/400 (PCI Graphics) - My Fourth (current) Mac
= 6 Liberated Contraband PPCs

No Newtons, Centrises, or Quadras as yet.

The Performa580 I rescued from the rain, it wasn't too wet, but very dead, blown fuse and dead hard drive, replaced both and it hasnt missed a beat since, I've almost maxed it out as far as upgrades go, too: PDS Ethernet, Commslot MODEM, Video input card, and I have an external Video connector, but it seems to be slightly too short to be installed, and I don't want to force it in case I break a connection on the ribbon cable, mundane specs are 610 Mb Hard drive and 16Mb RAM, and as mentioned above, I use it as an alarm clock. Then there's the 5400 I use as an MP3 Jukebox…

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What a waste of time, the ][s were where it was at.

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I miss those days BASIC used to be so much fun. And the Apple ]['s were great machines for home-brewing hardware. I built up a little circuit to take the sound output from the .25W speaker and split it to be fed into a stereo, coupled with the RF modulator I had to handle the video output, Games took on a whole new dimension, and it earned me coolness points in high school.

And they were impossible to crash unless there was dodgy code in whatever software you were using.

And good machines to play pranks on. Much fun could be had one the twenty or so machines with a FOR/NEXT loop and CTRL-G.

I've got a IIe card in a little Performa 250, but it's not the same.

You know, I held off signing up here for quite a while, I wasn't sure I'd pass the physical.

Seriously though, it's not a bad little collection I've got, most of the machines work, and it's fun. With luck I will soon be getting my hands on a IIvi, which will give me a full set of Mac IIs.

Now here's a thing, I'm trying to find, and am in the process of compiling a list of my collection by Gestalt ID, and I saw that ID 210 is listed as being a Macintosh IIvm, I've never heard of it.

Just when i thought I'd have the whole set, too…

One thing Ive wanted to do with an Apple IIc is to run my country from it, and then take it to friends' houses and "yeah" because of it's portability, and TVusing nature.

Mind you I did something stupid several years ago and sold a IIc to an ex-mate who wanted one. The thing was, it was the revision of the IIc that had the RAM expansion slot. I've never been able to find another one. I should go and beg it back, or see if he still has it at least.

I've seen an interesting add-on for the IIc as well, a few years back though, a Cdrive, removing the floppy drive, with this add-on board, you can fill it with a SCSI hard drive, very cool despite looking a little ugly, because there was no cover or bezel to fill the hole in the case. I know the owner of the machine, so when I see him next, I'll ask if he's still got it.

I thought that the IIc+ would be best, with composite video out, built in PSU, and I could just leave everything I'd need for the country on any given day on a single disc.

Then the SE fdhd came, and we were going to use that. and there was plans to implement a Performa 600, with keyboard/mouse/monitor sets at each of our homes.

Then I moved

I got into macs in 1994 when my office went from 386/486 running DOS and Win 3.11 to LC475s. At the same time we got networked and so the whole internet was suddenly mine! I used to run a website off a Performa 630. I've never looked back (other than in the retro-computing sense!). I still have a soft spot for the 475 running 7.1. First machine I purchased myself was a 6100/66 - very delicate machine until it got upgraded to 8.1 then steady as a rock and still going strong. I also have a weakness for 6100s. My current machine is a Pismo (also a very delicate machine until 9.1) and a Beige G3 (rock solid!) - though I also have a Plus, SE, SE/30, Classic, Classic II, Color Classic, Powerbook 520, Powerbook 5300cs, Wallstreet and a Bondi Blue iMac. I've also got a small collection of Sun SPARCs, which all have a similar 'character' to them as the macs do.

Interesting sub-thread about the naming of machines! All of mine are named after cartoon characters: Garfield, Jon, Odie, Bender, Leela, Farnsworth, Fry, Cartman, Kyle, Celia, Wazowski, Stewie, Mushu, Sid - all with coresponding icons of course! Try doing that with c:\!

As with others on this thread, I support Windows machines at work because I have to, but to me the Wintel boxes are largely characterless - I guess that's the downside of an open architecture.

Alcina
=8-)

There's a whole lot of discussion everywhere about X86 and macs and different kinds of "boxes" and "computers" having personalities, or being nothing-ness and stuff like that.

Personally, I believe that if you use it, it can develop a personality for you. For example, I've had several PCs that have developed certain ways of reacting to things, and sometime seem very personality-ful.

It's hard, I'm sure to see this side of an X86 based computer, especially if you work hard every day at maintaining 100s of them that other people use, and other people spend their days borking.

If it was you who used just one or three X86' of your own, it would probably seem just as nice as any other kind of computer.

That's my take on that anyway.

Well enough blabbing but my super liberal friend Linn and his super liberal family open my eyes to the Macintosh. I had used them WAY before but didn't really know much about the difference between a Mac and PC, atleast as a kid.

Jeremy

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