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cory5412 68KMLA Comrade-in-Arms USA 4679 Posts	Posted - 11 Mar 2003 : 21:04:23 relatively old means he joined what... one month before Catsdorule, who joined 2 months before me.... but that doesn't necessarily mean too much here..... as far as I know.... which means that I dont.... can someone help me with this question about 68kii forum miscellany? Official 68k videographer Official MLA TourGuide
cinemafia Guerrilla Recon Leader USA 2965 Posts	Posted - 11 Mar 2003 : 23:04:51 Hey, where's my legs? 666th poster and 666th thread-creator Mod of the Mac II series Forums Total 68K Macs liberated: 7 My Site: http://cine.sytes.net My Hardware Page: http://cineware.sytes.net
foetoid Full Member USA 554 Posts	Posted - 12 Mar 2003 : 05:55:31 quote: Hey, where's my legs? What?!?!?!?! Right where you left them I'd assume.... What do you mean ________________ foetoid, that's (fee-toy-duh) http://www.foetoid.doesntexist.com
dunbar New Member USA 87 Posts	Posted - 12 Mar 2003 : 10:52:50 I could accept a pre G3 PPC forum, but not here and the 'in-kind' URL would be tough: www.preg3mla.com..... Mac+=4, MacSE=1, MacSE30=1, P400=1, PB520c=1, LCI=-1, LCII=-1, Q605=1, Q650=1, UberQ950=1, Performa All-in-One=TBD PM7500=SQRT(-1).
Clinton Full Member USA 700 Posts	Posted - 12 Mar 2003 : 11:39:42 OWMMLA!!! OldWorldMacLiberationArmy!! anything pre-G3 can be classified as having Old-World ROM, ie, Open Firmware. anyway, my 0.02$ ANTIDISESTABLISHMENTARIANISM!!!! CCC Lieutennant Commander (Pronounced Leftennant) 68k Macs Rescued: 2 Pluses, a 512KE, a Classic II, a Q650, a Q660AV, and a MacII Contraband rescued: Power Computing PowerBase 200, a PM 8600/300, and a PM8500/180 Apple //s rescued: Apple //e
Trash80toG-4 NIGHT STALKER USA 2899 Posts	Posted - 12 Mar 2003 : 11:59:13 quote: OWMMLA!!! OldWorldMacLiberationArmy!! anything pre-G3 can be classified as having Old-World ROM, ie, Open Firmware. PPCIMLA? The NuBus slot manager architecture actually makes a much better, if less cleanly defined, dividing line in terms of hardware than the CPU generation. "It's the ~~economy~~ O.S., stupid!" Especially considering the number of (NuBus era O.S.)Mac emulation aficianados we have involved in the MLA! jt ™. Trash Hauler: call sign: eight-ball C.O. AC-130H SpecOps 68kMLAAF
shaktiman Senior Member United Kingdom 1226 Posts	Posted - 12 Mar 2003 : 12:49:36 quote: www.preg3mla.com..... What so the 68kmla is giving birth? & then it is a pregnant mla? a splinter site is to arise covering nubus powermacs up to pre g3? shaktiman Quadra 840av, prettymuchmaxedout8xcd drive,3 monitors 15" & 14" & 14" os 8.1 , 12 meg ram, 500 meg hard drive Performa400(asleepintheattick)
cory5412 68KMLA Comrade-in-Arms USA 4679 Posts	Posted - 12 Mar 2003 : 20:20:53 well whatever it is can we put it on my server? it runs Debian linux and the guy says "well just webpages is like nothing" so I'll have to prove him wrong it's a not smart PEESEE man anyway..... Official 68k videographer Official MLA TourGuide
Gothikon Full Member Australia 537 Posts	Posted - 12 Mar 2003 : 20:54:43 I see 2 problems with this whole thing. 1, The "descision makers" say 68k, Apples only 2, That would mean old PPC's would have to be covered at a seperate site. Maybe 'm just lazy but to be honest I can't be bothered signing up for 2 seperate forums and flipping through both of them. If there were a PPC section here I'd use it, if it was somewhere else I'd just forget about. My view? Obviously it doesn't fit with the name but like trash said I think anything with a nubus slot should be covered. So that includes first gen PowerMacs, which really aren't much more useful than 68k Macs anyway. Lowly Performas would be covered, they didn't have a nubus slot but they were pre PCI. To be honest though I don't care about Performa 5200/6200's plain and simple the worst 2 machines Apple ever made. -------- LC 2, LC 3, Q605, Perf 638, Colour Classic (160 603e) 6100, 7200, PTP 225 (Quad 604), PM 9600, G4 Cube
maclover5 LC Doctor/Hot Rodder Australia 5830 Posts	Posted - 12 Mar 2003 : 21:04:01 quote: My view? Obviously it doesn't fit with the name but like trash said I think anything with a nubus slot should be covered. So that includes first gen PowerMacs, which really aren't much more useful than 68k Macs anyway. Lowly Performas would be covered, they didn't have a nubus slot but they were pre PCI. Exactly. NuBus PowerMacs and Performas up to but exclduing the 6360 and 5400 should be covered (the 6360 and 5400 and upwards are based on a PCI architecture) -------------------------- Give your dreams a chance.™ - Apple in the mid '90s Warrior maclover5 68k Macintosh Liberation Army Number of 68ks Liberated: 7
Trash80toG-4 NIGHT STALKER USA 2899 Posts	Posted - 12 Mar 2003 : 21:04:24 quote: My view? Obviously it doesn't fit with the name but like trash said I think anything with a nubus slot should be covered. So that includes first gen PowerMacs, which really aren't much more useful than 68k Macs anyway. Lowly Performas would be covered, they didn't have a nubus slot but they were pre PCI. To be honest though I don't care about Performa 5200/6200's plain and simple the worst 2 machines Apple ever made. They're NuBus "Architecture", as in they use the NuBus slot manager I/O commands/pseudoslot model for their interfaces. 1400 and 5300 PowerBooks would be included in there too, and I'd want the 6360/6500/TAM etc included because they use the old 68k VideoSlot peripherals even though they are really PCI machines, they're still 68k of a sort in my book. But I'm happy with the definition as is, the lounge, help etc. are fine for PPC discussions. jt ™. Trash Hauler: call sign: eight-ball C.O. AC-130H SpecOps 68kMLAAF
cory5412 68KMLA Comrade-in-Arms USA 4679 Posts	Posted - 13 Mar 2003 : 06:21:53 i think that adding those more generic sections, and letting nuBus PowerPC posts in with the 68k-type posts would be great, that would prevent us from having to have a PowerMac forum, a PCI performa forum, a PPC PowerBook forum, and a NuBus psuedoslot like performa forum.... that's 4 forums we can eliminate the need for by going with a more generic forum system where topics such as "multimedia" can be discussed or "education" or "Internet on 68ks" which, BTW is a great spot for those things that end up in all of peripherals, software AND unix on 68k, in addition to the conquests and the lounge Official 68k videographer Official MLA TourGuide
danamania Official 68k Muse Australia 1193 Posts	Posted - 13 Mar 2003 : 06:25:11 quote: They're NuBus "Architecture", as in they use the NuBus slot manager I/O commands/pseudoslot model for their interfaces. 1400 and 5300 PowerBooks would be included in there too, and I'd want the 6360/6500/TAM etc included because they use the old 68k VideoSlot peripherals even though they are really PCI machines, they're still 68k of a sort in my book. I'm biased towards including x100 powermacs, simply because I'm just about to complete my collection of all 4 types. There's something neat in powermacs that use NuBus dana
cory5412 68KMLA Comrade-in-Arms USA 4679 Posts	Posted - 13 Mar 2003 : 06:30:04 i'm interested in knowing how one finds ANY 61/6200 that works at all... I have had 2 and they both pretty much had the same problem :crosses fingers: if this 6500 doesn't work, I'm never buying a consumer aimed PowerMac again..... Official 68k videographer Official MLA TourGuide
Jobf Junior Member United Kingdom 162 Posts	Posted - 13 Mar 2003 : 06:43:50 quote: That would mean old PPC's would have to be covered at a seperate site. Maybe 'm just lazy but to be honest I can't be bothered signing up for 2 seperate forums and flipping through both of them. If there were a PPC section here I'd use it, if it was somewhere else I'd just forget about. Yep, same with me. I don't think its a good idea to splinter to have two different forums. I'd just like to see the PPC section opened and all PPC stuff handled in there. No need to differentiate between models. This is the 68kmla after all. My 2cents. Jobf http://jobf.kicks-ass.org
maclover5 LC Doctor/Hot Rodder Australia 5830 Posts	Posted - 13 Mar 2003 : 15:40:27 quote: I'm biased towards including x100 powermacs, simply because I'm just about to complete my collection of all 4 types. There's something neat in powermacs that use NuBus All four types??? Don't tell me you're getting the beast known as the WorkGroup Server 9150!?!?!?!?!?!!? Lucky Maniac! -------------------------- Give your dreams a chance.™ - Apple in the mid '90s Warrior maclover5 68k Macintosh Liberation Army Number of 68ks Liberated: 7
cory5412 68KMLA Comrade-in-Arms USA 4679 Posts	Posted - 13 Mar 2003 : 15:52:31 maniacs get all the cool macs... do maniacs use hand to hand compat techniques to get all the cool macs? I am the young grasshopper... teach me Official 68k videographer Official MLA TourGuide
maclover5 LC Doctor/Hot Rodder Australia 5830 Posts	Posted - 13 Mar 2003 : 16:38:15 As it turns out....YES SHE HAS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Lookie what i found on Ebay AU!!!!! -------------------------- Give your dreams a chance.™ - Apple in the mid '90s Warrior maclover5 68k Macintosh Liberation Army Number of 68ks Liberated: 7
llamaboy487 Full Member USA 516 Posts	Posted - 13 Mar 2003 : 20:16:04 hmm... i don't want to cause a split in the MLA or anything... and there IS supposed to be a NuBus PPC MLA on cory's forum once it gets up and running... but i think that we need to take a vote, or something... unless the mla's not democratic and its all ~coxy's call (which i think is the case) but either way i think think we need to vote, that is, if we can... EDIT: I've set up a poll on my forum... for the rest of it registration is required but i'll make this thread to where guests can post... anyway, it's here: http://members.lycos.co.uk/nerdsoft/viewtopic.php?p=49#49 ------------- Master of The Grand Unified Theory of 68k-based Matrix Reality Visit http://www.kevcave.tk (my Forum) ...because no one expects the Spanish Inquisition! Edited by - llamaboy487 on 13 Mar 2003 20:18:25
cory5412 68KMLA Comrade-in-Arms USA 4679 Posts	Posted - 13 Mar 2003 : 20:58:15 thanks for having faith in me llama... be sure that Genecomp Forums will be back some how some da y... I hope on the same server and all... just keeps things easy... Official 68k videographer Official MLA TourGuide
danamania Official 68k Muse Australia 1193 Posts	Posted - 13 Mar 2003 : 22:43:42 quote: <maclover5> All four types??? Don't tell me you're getting the beast known as the WorkGroup Server 9150!?!?!?!?!?!!? Lucky Maniac! I hope I hope. It should match the Q950 as my other bedside table quite well. Apart from that, I have no idea what I could do with the thing. It can be a therapeutic mac and keep me amused for a few days. quote: <corey5412> maniacs get all the cool macs... do maniacs use hand to hand compat techniques to get all the cool macs? I am the young grasshopper... teach me You need to perfect the art of looking sweet and innocent, or innocuous in some other way, it should all work well... then go for a couple of kicks to soft tissue. headbutts work well too (uhh, so I hear) or ebay. that works too dana
Gothikon Full Member Australia 537 Posts	Posted - 13 Mar 2003 : 23:21:12 quote: and I'd want the 6360/6500/TAM etc included because they use the old 68k VideoSlot peripherals even though they are really PCI machines, they're still 68k of a sort in my book. That's totally self indulgent if you ask me. We all know you have a fetish for Performa I/O cards. So in that case I want Cubes included because they have ethernet, an internal modem, and limited upgradability (compared to a PowerMac) just like a Performa, in fact what is the difference -------- LC 2, LC 3, Q605, Perf 638, Colour Classic (160 603e) 6100, 7200, PTP 225 (Quad 604), PM 9600, G4 Cube
Trash80toG-4 NIGHT STALKER USA 2899 Posts	Posted - 13 Mar 2003 : 23:51:38 quote: quote: and I'd want the 6360/6500/TAM etc included because they use the old 68k VideoSlot peripherals even though they are really PCI machines, they're still 68k of a sort in my book. That's totally self indulgent if you ask me. We all know you have a fetish for Performa I/O cards. So in that case I want Cubes included because they have ethernet, an internal modem, and limited upgradability (compared to a PowerMac) just like a Performa, in fact what is the difference As the of 22 oz. Estwing Framing Hammer of ~~Doom~~ Justice . . . carrying Moderator of the 68kMLA Peripherals Forum . . . I . . . felt a little self-indulgent! jt ™. Trash Hauler: call sign: eight-ball C.O. AC-130H SpecOps 68kMLAAF
danamania Official 68k Muse Australia 1193 Posts	Posted - 14 Mar 2003 : 00:17:03 quote: As the of 22 oz. Estwing Framing Hammer of ~~Doom~~ Justice . . . carrying Moderator of the 68kMLA Peripherals Forum . . . I . . . felt a little self-indulgent! ...as ninjas are allowed to be. (not that one can argue with one) dana
cory5412 68KMLA Comrade-in-Arms USA 4679 Posts	Posted - 14 Mar 2003 : 06:12:46 TourGuide feels like he needs... something... we could create a section for Apple Monitors (all with the old style DB-15 port) then.... yeah Official 68k videographer Official MLA TourGuide
Trash80toG-4 NIGHT STALKER USA 2899 Posts	Posted - 14 Mar 2003 : 07:45:58 quote: TourGuide feels like he needs... something... we could create a section for Apple Monitors (all with the old style DB-15 port) In that case, you might want to include the 68k Peripherals forum to your tour! dislplays=peripherals! jt ™. Trash Hauler: call sign: eight-ball C.O. AC-130H SpecOps 68kMLAAF
shaktiman Senior Member United Kingdom 1226 Posts	Posted - 14 Mar 2003 : 13:10:51 Yes remember you can discuss all the powermacs because you can connect them to your 68k & use them as peripherals. Why has this topic lasted this long? can it be restarted to save the loading of 30 posts in order to read the 31st post? it is taking a while for it to come up now. erm the only cool(looking) macs are the 800 form factor macs & I do plan to own a couple, so a new forum can be 800 form factor macs :-) dana do you have experience with dos cards & Quadra's shaktiman Quadra 840av, prettymuchmaxedout8xcd drive,3 monitors 15" & 14" & 14" os 8.1 , 12 meg ram, 500 meg hard drive Performa400(asleepintheattick) Edited by - shaktiman on 14 Mar 2003 13:19:12
cory5412 68KMLA Comrade-in-Arms USA 4679 Posts	Posted - 14 Mar 2003 : 19:52:26 well it loads just fine on the iMac 233 that currently, acts as a peripheral to the PowerBook G4... Official 68k videographer Official MLA TourGuide
The Lightning Stalker Full Member USA 747 Posts	Posted - 15 Mar 2003 : 20:24:48 The NuBus idea sounds pretty good. I can't think of any NuBus PowerMacs I'd consider to be fast compared to what's out these days. The Lightning Stalker Performa 631CD, 7.5.5 LC III, FPU, 20/80/enet, 7.5.5, Mail Server 6400/180 40/1.6G/512k L2/enet/video-in/TV 7600/120 '604/233, 80/1.2G & 1G/512k L2, 9.2.2 (Main Mac) Lady Smith Apples: Apple IIc 5.25" 2 Apple IIe
cory5412 68KMLA Comrade-in-Arms USA 4679 Posts	Posted - 15 Mar 2003 : 21:40:16 yeah... if only they could run Mac OS X.2 HEY APPLE! HELP! Official 68k videographer Official MLA TourGuide
The Lightning Stalker Full Member USA 747 Posts	Posted - 16 Mar 2003 : 07:22:23 I feel your pain.
catsdorule Senior Member Canada 1627 Posts	Posted - 16 Mar 2003 : 13:17:06 So back on topic sould we have a ppc section? -danny You! What PLANET is this! -- McCoy, "The City on the Edge of Forever", stardate 3134.0 ------- 68k Macintosh Liberation Army 68k Macs Liberated: 3
boredomconquersall Full Member Canada 613 Posts	Posted - 16 Mar 2003 : 17:10:51 or an "other 68k devices" secton? THNxn "wow... this really does suck!" 10000Th poster and 1000Th topic creator in lounge. and remember, if you try and install mac OS 10.2 on an early G3, you will go insane, and aquire a thirst for blood!
cory5412 68KMLA Comrade-in-Arms USA 4679 Posts	Posted - 16 Mar 2003 : 19:21:31 or the other less model based sections, like Multimedia, Education and more usage based sections... Official 68k videographer Official MLA TourGuide
catsdorule Senior Member Canada 1627 Posts	Posted - 16 Mar 2003 : 22:37:48 Let us keep in mind that every new forum we make takes posts away from the other forums. -danny You! What PLANET is this! -- McCoy, "The City on the Edge of Forever", stardate 3134.0 ------- 68k Macintosh Liberation Army 68k Macs Liberated: 3
cory5412 68KMLA Comrade-in-Arms USA 4679 Posts	Posted - 17 Mar 2003 : 00:37:52 well gee wouldn't it be nice to have a place where these different things can be discussed in a different way... I mean "multimedia on 68k" topics in the lounge are great and all... but the lounge has alot of topics in it, I'd say at least 3 new every day, on average... most of these topics get less than ten replies.... we'd be able to focus more on what we're doing, and do more if the MLA were slightly better organized, we could drop some of the useless fat that noone likes anyway and add some more muscle and meat that is worth looking at and participating in. if there's a newton and apple II sections here, WHY is there not a "general 68k devices" section... I mean... it'd be just ever-so-wonderful if we were to be slightly more inclusive of sega things, toasters and amiga/ataris Official 68k videographer Official MLA TourGuide
catsdorule Senior Member Canada 1627 Posts	Posted - 17 Mar 2003 : 03:41:49 Arn't the Apple //s not powered by 68ks? -danny You! What PLANET is this! -- McCoy, "The City on the Edge of Forever", stardate 3134.0 ------- 68k Macintosh Liberation Army 68k Macs Liberated: 3
maclover5 LC Doctor/Hot Rodder Australia 5830 Posts	Posted - 17 Mar 2003 : 03:54:09 quote: Arn't the Apple //s not powered by 68ks? -danny You! What PLANET is this! -- McCoy, "The City on the Edge of Forever", stardate 3134.0 ------- 68k Macintosh Liberation Army 68k Macs Liberated: 3 No. They're powered by a 6502. -------------------------- Give your dreams a chance.™ - Apple in the mid '90s Warrior maclover5 68k Macintosh Liberation Army Number of 68ks Liberated: 7
cory5412 68KMLA Comrade-in-Arms USA 4679 Posts	Posted - 17 Mar 2003 : 09:30:27 yeah, and Newtons are powered by ARM processors (at least the later ones are) Official 68k videographer Official MLA TourGuide
dunbar New Member USA 87 Posts	Posted - 19 May 2003 : 13:07:44 NuBus on PPCs??? Isn't that kinda like driving with your brakes locked on?? Just kidding, any mac beats a PC anyday! Mac+=4, MacSE=1, MacSE30=1, P400=1, PB520c=1, LCI=-1, LCII=-1, Q605=1, Q650=1, UberQ950=1, Performa All-in-One=TBD PM7500=SQRT(-1).

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