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llamaboy487 Full Member USA 516 Posts	Posted - 16 Aug 2003 : 18:53:29 i just thought everyone would like to know that i just got a 1.2mb 5.25" floppy drive working under Windows XP. Does that make me 1337? ________________________ IBM PS/2 Fanboy http://www.kevcave.tk = The Kevcave Manager, the llama-X project..
The Balance Of Judgement Senior Member Ivory Coast 1006 Posts	Posted - 16 Aug 2003 : 19:41:50 It's actually makes Microsoft 1337. Just kidding. It's a joke that Microsoft still has support for it. It's dead, like the doddo, it don't get anymore dead unless of course you killed it again..... So, here's to Microsoft, the true witchraft people, always giving long life to our peripherals!
maclover5 LC Doctor/Hot Rodder Australia 5830 Posts	Posted - 16 Aug 2003 : 19:43:42 HAR!™ "**** em" - Jobs in regards to customers Warrior maclover5 68kMLA Official 68kMLA Detective Number of 68ks Liberated: 7 Number of Contraband (PPC) Liberated from the Dumpster: 1
The Balance Of Judgement Senior Member Ivory Coast 1006 Posts	Posted - 16 Aug 2003 : 19:47:42 We should have a lynch mob to attack the BIOS vendors who still offer 5.25 Floppy options in thier BIOS. You'd be amazed at what relics you find in modern hardware. They still let you select 720K, 1.4MB, 1.2MB and that other version of 5.25 (single sided).
maclover5 LC Doctor/Hot Rodder Australia 5830 Posts	Posted - 16 Aug 2003 : 20:05:55 Whats a floppy disk? "**** em" - Jobs in regards to customers Warrior maclover5 68kMLA Official 68kMLA Detective Number of 68ks Liberated: 7 Number of Contraband (PPC) Liberated from the Dumpster: 1
llamaboy487 Full Member USA 516 Posts	Posted - 16 Aug 2003 : 20:09:48 i like my 5.25 drive... yeah my BIOS has support for 360k and 1.2mb 5.25" and 720k, 1.25mb (3-mode, for japan or something), 1.44mb, and (gasp) 2.88mb! I only wish i had a 2.88mb Extended Density drive to throw in a floppy bay but this 5.25 drive has the coolest 5mm red LED on it and so after i reconnect the 3.5" drive im gonna leave the floppy connected to the PSU just so the LED stays on ________________________ IBM PS/2 Fanboy http://www.kevcave.tk = The Kevcave Manager, the llama-X project..
The Balance Of Judgement Senior Member Ivory Coast 1006 Posts	Posted - 16 Aug 2003 : 20:11:46 Apple is like the ProChoice Doctor who put Floppy Disks out of thier misery. I remember people thinking they were crazy, but soon after, CD-R's began to just fly (along with lifted Records & MP3's) So, once again, Apple knew best. Not Steve, Apple. Apple is company, Steve is moron with company. There is a difference. Yes, so Think Different.
maclover5 LC Doctor/Hot Rodder Australia 5830 Posts	Posted - 16 Aug 2003 : 21:37:47 quote: So, once again, Apple knew best. Not Steve, Apple. Apple is company, Steve is moron with company. There is a difference. Yes, so Think Different. Well said. "**** em" - Jobs in regards to customers Warrior maclover5 68kMLA Official 68kMLA Detective Number of 68ks Liberated: 7 Number of Contraband (PPC) Liberated from the Dumpster: 1
cory5412 68KMLA Comrade-in-Arms USA 4679 Posts	Posted - 16 Aug 2003 : 22:46:58 actually... it was steve... and no big whup that Xp supports 5.25" drives... it supports 1.44 right? and that's just from the BIOS... Official 68k videographer Official MLA TourGuide Editor of the MLAgazine "I'm just a normal computer geek who somehow landed a social life"
Unknown_K Full Member USA 602 Posts	Posted - 17 Aug 2003 : 02:27:16 Getting rid of the floopy prevented people from using their older floppy based aplications. It went over so well that apple produced a USB floppy drive to sell for something like $100 to quiet them down. As far as the PC goes the only major thing that got removed are ISA slots on MB's they still support the floppies even if the newer windows do not directly ( the dos based format commands and switches still work I believe). It takes quite a while to get devices added to the bios, and forever to get them removed.
Alien Junior Member Netherlands 269 Posts	Posted - 17 Aug 2003 : 03:53:32 quote: Apple is like the ProChoice Doctor who put Floppy Disks out of thier misery. I remember people thinking they were crazy, but soon after, CD-R's began to just fly (along with lifted Records & MP3's) So, once again, Apple knew best. Not Steve, Apple. Apple completely missed the boat on the CD-R issue. They gambled on DVD-ROM and DVD-RAM drives. quote: Getting rid of the floopy prevented people from using their older floppy based aplications. It went over so well that apple produced a USB floppy drive to sell for something like $100 to quiet them down. Apple never produced a USB floppy drive. ,xtG .tsooJ -- who \| grep -i blonde \| date cd ~; unzip; touch; strip; finger mount; gasp; yes; uptime; umount sleep
llamaboy487 Full Member USA 516 Posts	Posted - 17 Aug 2003 : 13:15:18 wow... this thing is actually useful for something! i found an old pile of 5.25" floppies and now im going through and seeing whats on them all. Perhaps i could use these floppies to create boot disks for any old machines i might get my hands on sometime ________________________ IBM PS/2 Fanboy http://www.kevcave.tk = The Kevcave Manager, the llama-X project..
Unknown_K Full Member USA 602 Posts	Posted - 17 Aug 2003 : 17:15:07 Get an apple IIgs and play the old apple II games on 5.25 floppies. I use my 5.25's for my c64/128/IIgs and some old dos games on the PC.
The Lightning Stalker Full Member USA 747 Posts	Posted - 17 Aug 2003 : 18:54:28 I wouldn't count on many of those 1.2 MB disks working. They bite the dust quite often at this age. quote: but this 5.25 drive has the coolest 5mm red LED on it and so after i reconnect the 3.5" drive im gonna leave the floppy connected to the PSU just so the LED stays on Just desolder the LED and put it into your 3.5" drive.
maclover5 LC Doctor/Hot Rodder Australia 5830 Posts	Posted - 17 Aug 2003 : 19:02:07 Yeah, as long as it'll fit!!!! "**** em" - Jobs in regards to customers Warrior maclover5 68kMLA Official 68kMLA Detective Number of 68ks Liberated: 7 Number of Contraband (PPC) Liberated from the Dumpster: 1
cory5412 68KMLA Comrade-in-Arms USA 4679 Posts	Posted - 17 Aug 2003 : 20:13:33 One of my drives had a red light, another of them had a green lighht... i'm sure you could swap in any different or other light you wanted to.. IIRC, when it has power but no controller, the motors spin out of control for ever and never... not a good thing for one of those how well does that drive match the exterior of your case? IIRC, it was belin, newertech and VST that made *(and probably still do) the USB floppies... with that driver, you eject the disc on the desktop and it says it's safe to push the button on the drive (they used cheap peesee laptop drives IIRC) Official 68k videographer Official MLA TourGuide Editor of the MLAgazine "I'm just a normal computer geek who somehow landed a social life"
maclover5 LC Doctor/Hot Rodder Australia 5830 Posts	Posted - 17 Aug 2003 : 21:35:48 Teac uses cheap laptop drives in their external usb floppies too. I know that because i have one. "**** em" - Jobs in regards to customers Warrior maclover5 68kMLA Official 68kMLA Detective Number of 68ks Liberated: 7 Number of Contraband (PPC) Liberated from the Dumpster: 1
cory5412 68KMLA Comrade-in-Arms USA 4679 Posts	Posted - 17 Aug 2003 : 22:00:21 lol, yeah them too but all teac needed to do was shove one of the drives they already make into a lovely "slim" case Official 68k videographer Official MLA TourGuide Editor of the MLAgazine "I'm just a normal computer geek who somehow landed a social life"
maclover5 LC Doctor/Hot Rodder Australia 5830 Posts	Posted - 17 Aug 2003 : 22:39:26 I think i already knew that. "**** em" - Jobs in regards to customers Warrior maclover5 68kMLA Official 68kMLA Detective Number of 68ks Liberated: 7 Number of Contraband (PPC) Liberated from the Dumpster: 1 Edit - FYI, NewerTech didnt' use laptop drives, they used desktop PC mechanisms. Edited by - maclover5 on 17 Aug 2003 22:40:48
The Balance Of Judgement Senior Member Ivory Coast 1006 Posts	Posted - 18 Aug 2003 : 00:14:25 All this floppy talk is making me hungry. I have a few spare 5.25 Floppies I'll just eat them to get my point across.
Derekcat Junior Member USA 342 Posts	Posted - 18 Aug 2003 : 00:24:34 … I have to feel kinda dissapointed in [Mac] people when I hear approval of anything windowz… [I had an angery post about all this but I couldnt post it because of the M$ JET error thing, meant for that "move the MLA" thread…] Yea… I know… "Lounge: Talk about anything, but keep it civil." still, arn't these The 68k Macintosh Liberation Army forums? If I open my window all the bugs will get in…That's just one more reason to use a Mac! Mac Portable LC \|\| LC \|\|\| SE/30 \|\|si \|\|ci Quadras: 660av, 950 PMs: 6100/G3/233, 6214CD, 5400/120, 7100/80av, 9500/G3/300 PB 5300ce SuperMac C600 180, 240 Edit: Sorry, if I sound kinda mean… Sometimes I can't just kick back and laugh about stuff… but about this, maybe it's because I was made a lot of fun of for being a Mac user in 6th, 7th, and 8th grades…[currently going into 11th] [I was close to trying to beat someone with a chair once in 8th grade…] Edited by - Derekcat on 18 Aug 2003 00:34:57
maclover5 LC Doctor/Hot Rodder Australia 5830 Posts	Posted - 18 Aug 2003 : 02:13:23 I know what you mean, Derekcat. But really, you can't just ignore the "other side". I tried, and failed. "**** em" - Jobs in regards to customers Warrior maclover5 68kMLA Official 68kMLA Detective Number of 68ks Liberated: 7 Number of Contraband (PPC) Liberated from the Dumpster: 1
Derekcat Junior Member USA 342 Posts	Posted - 18 Aug 2003 : 03:00:28 Ah… sorry… but the teacher in charge of our "tech support class" [we sit and play games untill someone comes to us with a problem]; tried to argue that I should learn PC stuff [this was last year at high school btw], and the computer graphics teacher [a Mac lover of course; right across the hall] happened to come over, and joined my side, and gave me a high five for shooting him down but I have no intention of going anywhere that I will have to use a PC everyday [or close to that] but anyway, there is a lot of the Mac built to do anything the other side does [besides all those extra games and junk; but I think I'll get by w/o them ] yea… ignoring the other side should be easy if you don't end up somewhere that you have to use them… but even then, a little investment of 200$? right? If I open my window all the bugs will get in…That's just one more reason to use a Mac! Mac Portable LC \|\| LC \|\|\| SE/30 \|\|si \|\|ci Quadras: 660av, 950 PMs: 6100/G3/233, 6214CD, 5400/120, 7100/80av, 9500/G3/300 PB 5300ce SuperMac C600 180, 240
The Balance Of Judgement Senior Member Ivory Coast 1006 Posts	Posted - 18 Aug 2003 : 03:01:54 The other side has it's place. For me, I can't stand Mac Zealouts who think Macintosh machines are the only decent machines in the world. Intel machines can be decent too, and the industry depends on many of them. Linux has made good strides and slowly people are getting into the open source movement. So, the other side is here to stay in some form.
Unknown_K Full Member USA 602 Posts	Posted - 18 Aug 2003 : 03:32:56 Ignoring any option is just limiting your toolset. I own amiga's, PC's, macs, and consoles and they all have their place. There are many areas of the worplace that if you ignore the PC you basically cant work in that area. While apple's today might be ok for the average home user who just uses some office apps, a web browser, and email there are quite a few places where they have no software for the job.
Derekcat Junior Member USA 342 Posts	Posted - 18 Aug 2003 : 03:48:46 Im kinda okey with Intel/AMD stuff, as long as it's running Linux, BSD, or something not Windows… which brings me to the question [dont ask how]… why doesnt IBM seem to market its servers using its own processors… A name thing? Ooh look we use this intel chip! something like that? [Or did I miss a bunch of commercials?] oh well, but I know there are other things out there that aren't Apple branded… But I don't belive in them as much as Apple stuff… yea… but I guess I kinda consider [bad part of ] the other side 92% windows, 8% hardware [I seem to hear a lot about the Major PC manufactures {-Sony} using complete rap in their systems…] and all the PCs in this world that I've seen cant seem to outlast a PB5300 but Linux, and the opensource movement; I think those are all cool ideas; I mean, I even have Debian Linux 2.2 on my 660av; and I've considered loading YDL on my 9500 and C600 a few times… it's place in the industry… Humm… well, relating to that all I can remeber is that MS office is popular [yet still bloated rap] and that what? 80%? of webservers are running Linux… OpenOffice would cover for MS office on Linux, and OS X which also has the option for Think Free Office so… if windows were to die, and redmond WA burst into a ball of fire… it wouldnt hurt anyone after the trasition… well… Maybe Symantec and McAfee [But if you use Hotmail I remember that the built in McAfee "protection" messes up all your attachments anyway] but it's getting late, and I don't really like to argue with people… If I open my window all the bugs will get in…That's just one more reason to use a Mac! Mac Portable LC \|\| LC \|\|\| SE/30 \|\|si \|\|ci Quadras: 660av, 950 PMs: 6100/G3/233, 6214CD, 5400/120, 7100/80av, 9500/G3/300 PB 5300ce SuperMac C600 180, 240 Edited by - Derekcat on 18 Aug 2003 03:59:16
maclover5 LC Doctor/Hot Rodder Australia 5830 Posts	Posted - 18 Aug 2003 : 04:19:20 Lol, very nice discussion you guys have going. But yeah, I agree with how decent Wintel PCs can be sometimes. Wintel PCs are like normal everyday (read: Under AU$40k/≈US$20k) cars, there's good ones, which are built from high quality components and last for years and years, and cheap ones, which can't stand 2 years. "**** em" - Jobs in regards to customers Warrior maclover5 68kMLA Official 68kMLA Detective Number of 68ks Liberated: 7 Number of Contraband (PPC) Liberated from the Dumpster: 1 Edited by - maclover5 on 18 Aug 2003 04:21:08
Unknown_K Full Member USA 602 Posts	Posted - 18 Aug 2003 : 13:54:56 Everybody who sells intel pc's have the intel inside sticker on their products and in their commercials because Intel has a huge fund that they give out to companies to aid in their advertising (kind of like a bribe) if they show the symbol. Its a sizable amount of money and if you use AMD chips on anything you dont get the money.
The Balance Of Judgement Senior Member Ivory Coast 1006 Posts	Posted - 18 Aug 2003 : 15:59:21 OK, I'll use AMD chips and put an Intel sticker on them for the money! Also speaking of Intel, I once had this bad dream starting up my 660AV and I did something wrong and somehow "burned" out the startup screen and underneath at startup was a normal PC/BIOS display with Intel. Like it was this bad dream where Apple just made a PC with a BIOS Splash Screen. I never could shake that dream.
mmddyy Starting Member 2 Posts	Posted - 27 Aug 2003 : 15:13:22 There's nothing wrong with a 5 1/4" floppy drive (the ][ had them before the PC)... there is something wrong with a software company, Microsoft, still writing software in order to support it. I would hate to know of any business using 5 1/4" floppies considering their extremely short lifespan; with microsoft encouraging it, I'm sure there is...
Unknown_K Full Member USA 602 Posts	Posted - 27 Aug 2003 : 17:00:59 Those old 5 1/4" floppies are more reliable long term then the newer 3.5" HD disks. I still have an original c64 game on 5.25 disk that works compared to my win 95 OEM on floppies that doesnt.
maclover5 LC Doctor/Hot Rodder Australia 5830 Posts	Posted - 27 Aug 2003 : 20:08:11 quote: OK, I'll use AMD chips and put an Intel sticker on them for the money! Good idea! Where can you get Intel stickers minus the processors? Btw, about scary Mac dreams, has anyone ever dreamt about finding their new PowerBook 1400 in a wheelie bin? Now THAT was scary. "**** em" - Jobs in regards to customers Warrior maclover5 68kMLA Official 68kMLA Detective Number of 68ks Liberated: 7 Number of Contraband (PPC) Liberated from the Dumpster: 1
cory5412 68KMLA Comrade-in-Arms USA 4679 Posts	Posted - 27 Aug 2003 : 20:12:32 I got a few from RePC, when I bought my Quadra 840av... I actually like MS windows, and the term for people wh othink that PCs are the ultimate, and nothing else is good at all is "Windozers™" I made it up, and it was on a bad night... the thread is somewhere around here if y'all want to dig it up... anyway, noone seems to know this... but really, the best computers ever are from SGI and sun... they look nicer than most other machines, they've been 64-bit since the early-mid 1990s, and they run a UNIX based variants (IRIX, and Solaris) Solaris is also available for x86 platforms. Official 68k videographer Official MLA TourGuide Editor of the MLAgazine "I'm just a normal computer geek who somehow landed a social life"
Christophillis Forums Squadron Commander USA 688 Posts	Posted - 27 Aug 2003 : 21:03:23 quote: The other side has it's place. For me, I can't stand Mac Zealouts who think Macintosh machines are the only decent machines in the world. /me comes into this topic late ML5 and I were just discussing this on Aim the other night... That and really anything that pissed us off about zealots/ PeeCee weenies. -------------------- Christophillis- Portable Squadren Commander 68k Macintosh Liberation Army Total 68k Macs Liberated: 6.02x10^23 Or just 6 Number One, you have the helm. I'll be in my ready room.
maclover5 LC Doctor/Hot Rodder Australia 5830 Posts	Posted - 27 Aug 2003 : 21:23:13 Zealots of any kind are evil. 'Nuff said. "**** em" - Jobs in regards to customers Warrior maclover5 68kMLA Official 68kMLA Detective Number of 68ks Liberated: 7 Number of Contraband (PPC) Liberated from the Dumpster: 1
Derekcat Junior Member USA 342 Posts	Posted - 27 Aug 2003 : 23:00:41 quote: anyway, noone seems to know this... but really, the best computers ever are from SGI and sun... they look nicer than most other machines, they've been 64-bit since the early-mid 1990s I never had anything against Sun… [but I dont really know SGI very well… I keep hearing SGI, SGI… but I dont know who they are…] but then, the closest I ever go tto a Sun was seeing a Sun monitor at School… [to be recycled I think] If I open my window all the bugs will get in…That's just one more reason to use a Mac! Mac Portable LC \|\| SE/30 \|\|si \|\|ci Quadras: 660av, 950 PMs: 6100/G3/233, 6214CD, 5400/120, 7100/80av, 9500/G3/300 PB 5300ce SuperMac C600 180, 240
shaktiman Senior Member United Kingdom 1226 Posts	Posted - 28 Aug 2003 : 01:53:34 Floppies are very nostalgic for me, my first computer being an st & using floppies only. I remember great frustration, but also alot of fun. I personally believe that Apple dropped the floppy because Apple had really crap floppy drives, my older macs can't read a floppy disk to save thier lives(this case has been tried & tested), Haing said that I am currently using the floppy from the 7600 in my 840av & it is fairly reliable. My new pc had a floppy, I didn't care if it did or not, but my wife had got her knickers in a twist about it. Well the new pc's floppy drive is not exact technology, & it is luck sometimes if you get to read a floppy disk. I used to use Gemexplorer for reading floppy didsk on my old pc & it did a fantastic job, I would say it read 99.9% of the disks I tried. I would certainly have a 5.25 inch floppy drive if I could, because what do you do if you find a 5.25 inch floppy disk that you want to read? Can you picture my dream computer? an 840av with 512 gig of ram, running, Tos & Gem, & about 50 removeable drives, (floppy, cd, dvd) BUT NO ZIP DISKS. shaktiman Quadra 840av, prettymuchmaxedout8xcd drive os 8.1 128 meg ram, 500 meg hard drive 3 monitors 15" & 14" & 14"
maclover5 LC Doctor/Hot Rodder Australia 5830 Posts	Posted - 28 Aug 2003 : 02:07:58 quote: an 840av with 512 gig of ram, running, Tos & Gem, & about 50 removeable drives, (floppy, cd, dvd) BUT NO ZIP DISKS. Now THAT would be fun! "**** em" - Jobs in regards to customers Warrior maclover5 68kMLA Official 68kMLA Detective Number of 68ks Liberated: 7 Number of Contraband (PPC) Liberated from the Dumpster: 1
Derekcat Junior Member USA 342 Posts	Posted - 28 Aug 2003 : 04:16:13 quote: BUT NO ZIP DISKS. Does that mean that you'd have some SyQuest stuff in there? If I open my window all the bugs will get in…That's just one more reason to use a Mac! Mac Portable LC \|\| SE/30 \|\|si \|\|ci Quadras: 660av, 950 PMs: 6100/G3/233, 6214CD, 5400/120, 7100/80av, 9500/G3/300 PB 5300ce SuperMac C600 180, 240
cory5412 68KMLA Comrade-in-Arms USA 4679 Posts	Posted - 28 Aug 2003 : 06:23:27 What happened to that SyQuest EZFlyer that was translucent red at the intro of the iMac? OR THE ORB DRIVE!!! :drool: Castlewood ORB 2.2GB of circular storage goodieness the cartriges are fairly cheap as well IIRC (well they were) JAZ! (well I've never used one, but it's pretty standard IIRC...) I can't wait to see Jaz 3/4 GB Official 68k videographer Official MLA TourGuide Editor of the MLAgazine "I'm just a normal computer geek who somehow landed a social life"
Unknown_K Full Member USA 602 Posts	Posted - 28 Aug 2003 : 10:56:36 Dont hold your breath for any new Iomega zip/jazz type drives. I have a 44mb Syquest drive that I want to connect to my IIgs whenever I find a cheap scsi card. I have 2 100mb IDE zip drives 1 in a my pc server and 1 in my 8500 mac. They are just for legacy stuff (should burn all the files to a few cd's) Never seen an orb, were they any good? HD's and external enclosures are too cheap for any other removable media to make any money.

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