The next thing you'll notice is that it addresses three catagories of problems that the current forum has.

1)Slow Administration
- we're not going to turn into yet another fritter, or like the MAF... but some of the administration around here is very slow...
2)Lack of Forum Featurs
- Many people have complained about a certain... "lack" of features here at this MLA... and how they'd be unhappy if they lost some of the features that the current MLA (1.0) has... PHPbb has the new features... and the features that we like here are there.
3)concerns with LitClassics uptime, and MS reliability
- The new MLA will be hosted on someone's hosting, and they possibly on one of our own servers...

In relation to #3, the new MLA will, in time, have a one week trial period on some of the MLAers' own servers, for us to consider the possibility of it living on a MLAers' own server..

pop on over, sign up and when you sign up, tell one of the administrators if you are/were a moderator here! we'll gladly set you up as a moderator over there.

http://www.mla.digitalnn.com/

30 members signed up by next week... (or something)

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Ah, don't leave thequietman. Even if you're getting rid of all your old Macs, there's no rule saying that you have to have tons and tons of Macs to be a member.

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I want to be unique just like everybody else.

I think we should wait this out untill all of the MLA has a chance to voice thier opinion as we do have a large number of members. I'm not for it or against it, at this point I am somewhat nuetral.

I just know alot of time was taken and spent over the years to run the 68KMLA, and to be honest cory, even though administration or Moderation on this forum might be slow or lacking, I don't think it shows proper taste or manners to openly say that in front of all the people on the MLA.

People who run sites like this often have thier own lives to lead and don't have all the free time you might. So, for them, it might be hard to get the site in top order with the limited resources they have.

I realize things may not be moving as fast as you may want them, but I do believe we should get the whole picture first, and perhaps instead of saying "here it use, let's use it" you could suggest a slow transition to a more reliable software.

another thing, is that the new "MLA" is NOT the same, it IS different, it has a wider scope of "liberation" now including PowerPCs...

it was NOT meant to be an insult....

I also dont' consider it to be ripping off someone's hard work...

that's just me, remember now, I'm only 15 years old... and I've had LOADS ripped off of me.... (trust me...)

I'd thikn that we should leave it up for ahwile though... first, to see what more people think of it... and to get a view of what a forum of that activity would take on bandwidth and other "activity"

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The first thing you'll notice about MLA 2.0, is that it's not JUST 68k... it's all macintosh....

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if ~Coxy doesn't approve of it, we can always take it down.

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Come and check it out.

remember... the 3 "points" of the MLA upgrade are actually things that CaptainZ said... why he supports the transition to the MLA...

I remember one time, MacLover5 saying that PHPbb gives him MUCH less grief on his older browsers than snitz... (something to consider)

you can't trust me because I announced a new forum?

I begin to wonder how many people online *I* can trust because of this...

My first year at the MLA was great, but after that day... things basically headed downhill... I've been working and helping to improve that... and you'll note that the new MLA is NOT finalized in any way....

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I remember one time, MacLover5 saying that PHPbb gives him MUCH less grief on his older browsers than snitz... (something to consider)

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"**** em" - Jobs in regards to customers
Warrior maclover5
68kMLA
Official 68kMLA Detective
Number of 68ks Liberated: 7
Number of Contraband (PPC) Liberated from the Dumpster: 1

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Actually, the MLA 2.0 forums are hosted off a professional server. Its the server that runs DigitalNN, which is a new computer news site that is starting up. But yeah, like i said, if ~Coxy doesn't approve of it, we can always take it down.

"**** em" - Jobs in regards to customers
Warrior maclover5
68kMLA
Official 68kMLA Detective
Number of 68ks Liberated: 7
Number of Contraband (PPC) Liberated from the Dumpster: 1

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You! What PLANET is this!
-- McCoy, "The City on the Edge of Forever", stardate 3134.0
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68k Macintosh Liberation Army
68k Macs Liberated: 3

1) Slow Administration - a while back, there was a thread I started in the War Room about replacing inactive mods with new mods. People were chosen (catsdorule, Da Penguin, and I think bigsadhu), and everyone who replied to that thread thought it would be a good idea to bring them in on a trial basis to see if they'd work out. Talks in this thread died out, and nothing came from it.

2) Lack of forum features - again, in the War Room I've brought up topics about adding Avatars, images, and ranks. The main reason we don't have avatars and images is because we want to keep the forums 68K and dialup friendly, which is understandable, and I agree with. Under phpBB, there is a mod that can be installed to turn off avatars and images, set by user preference. As for the ranks, generally everyone who replied thought it was a good idea, but again, nothing happened.

3) LiteratureClassics stability, MS Database errors - in the latest crash wiped out a day's worth of posts, but there have been longer outages where we have lost more. I've seen phpBB go down once on MAF. Considering we have a much smaller community than the MAF (575 vs. 10000+), forum crashes won't be as often since phpBB is more stable.

Also, just as a sidenote: Snitz 3.4.02, which we currently use, doesn't play nice with Safari sometimes. Snitz 3.4.03, which has been out since September, does play nice though.

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Captain Z - Mobile Operations Commander
68K Macintosh Liberation Army
31 68K Macs Liberated

Visit Captain Z's Starbase of EV Stuff

as a personal note to stryder...

DON'T KILL THE MESSENGER

I cannot stress this enough... but as basically the appointed "PR officer" or whatever... it was my job to post here about the new MLA... I support the new MLA fully, and as long as both exist, I'll be active at both MLAs... I must say stryder... this is a complete surprise... you have completely floored me with this...

I'm certain that there has been NO grief from you that I post alot here... so this is the first time I've had any kind of "run in" with you per se... I cannot say it better than you've basically floored me....

I think that if the number of MLAers who have already supported the new MLA, and the number who have NOT read ANY kind of insults into my posts... they support it... and that's what's important to me.

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Slow admin? How? What do you need the admin to do?

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Visit Captain Z's Starbase of EV Stuff

This place was setup for the chat of 68K macs and all things vintage. If you want to talk PPC and other stuff, feel free to setup your own board, but don't take the name of the MLA since that belongs to this community, even if this new community is sanctioned by members alike.

So, in finale, I will now cut myself in half while making myself burn and disapear in flaming smoke while I wallow in fear over what may next occur.

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I don't believe ~coxy really cares anymore, he never spends his time here, besides it should be the members that have control. I don't believe anyone really browses on a 68k anymore.

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Mayor of NuBus City v3.0

Well said Coxy.

I can go to sleep now knowing the world is safe. ;-)

Sorry it didn't work out the way we all wanted it to, but in the end, it was more trouble than it was worth. Otherwise i'd still be there.

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as a personal note to stryder...

DON'T KILL THE MESSENGER

I cannot stress this enough... but as basically the appointed "PR officer" or whatever... it was my job to post here about the new MLA... I support the new MLA fully, and as long as both exist, I'll be active at both MLAs... I must say stryder... this is a complete surprise... you have completely floored me with this...

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:-)

I come here daily because it's a great source of all things 68k. People that know and _love_ 68k machines are few and far between and this is one place that has more than 2 of them.

I think in trying to include PPC and beyond, you're going to dilute what 68k expertise you have.

Heck, if I wanted to post on a forum that encompasses everything, I'll go to the MacAddict forums and use the Pre-G3 section.

Just my .02

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