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danamania
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Australia
1193 Posts
Posted - 27 Sep 2002 :  00:51:47
OK I think I asked this one before (or I may have restricted it to macs last time) but since there's a lot of new people about, it can't hurt!

Of all the computer hardware and gadgetry, regardless of its technical abilities, what would you say is the -prettiest- stuff you've seen? I'm big on the aesthetics of a computer, as anyone who's heard me rant about Quadra 605s could say :). my CRT iMac isn't TOOOO bad but it's more a generic work boxie than a really pretty computer. It seems quite a few of the commonly raised 'sexiest' computers stick quite close to minimalism - the NeXTs, both the cube and slab, 605s, the TiBook and white iBooks. At the risk of a "bleeeeuurgh!" I also happen to quite like IBM's really 'edgy' black computers. they have a really basic, solid industrial look about them that I think works.

So with my waffling out of the way - what's the gadgetry you find just plain visually appealing?

dana

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Australia
2822 Posts
Posted - 27 Sep 2002 :  01:02:50
I'd have to say the iMac G4 on the Mac side, and the N64 on the general gadgetry side.

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Da Penguin
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USA
1094 Posts
Posted - 27 Sep 2002 :  04:04:01
iPod!

And in terms of the computer side of things, That one setup I saw with dual 17 LCD monitors run by a G4 cube was Sa Weet! It was just set up in a very "minimalist" way, with all the ables neat, and on a very clean desk (this was in the office of some building somewhere in virginia, I could get more generic if you want!).

It just looked so damn good!

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cinemafia
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USA
2965 Posts
Posted - 27 Sep 2002 :  12:05:47
As far as computers, I still really like the TAM, and even the more ultra-80's, all-black, pendulum LCD versions that were done as prototypes for it. Too bad that if one were to have one now-a-days it might actually be mistaken for a Gateway Profile 4!

I also will go with the NeXT Cube, it's very cool. Oh, and the eMate! Who can't say that thing is inspired next to the drudgery of PDA's today?

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catsdorule
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Canada
1627 Posts
Posted - 27 Sep 2002 :  12:59:26
Definitly the electric fan Man it it hot in my place right now...

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cinemafia
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USA
2965 Posts
Posted - 27 Sep 2002 :  13:22:38
Oh yeah, that reminded me (somehow). When it comes to gadgetry, my favorite stuff comes from Michael Graves. He's been doing a huge line of redesigned, everyday "stuff" for Target here in the states that's just fabulous.

I have the Michael Graves telephone (the old style one, not the cordless), portable CD player, and a few other pieces. They're almost like art objects for the rest of us...I'm planning on getting the oscillating fan, next.

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danamania
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Australia
1193 Posts
Posted - 27 Sep 2002 :  19:04:56
quote:

I have the Michael Graves telephone (the old style one, not the cordless), portable CD player, and a few other pieces. They're almost like art objects for the rest of us...I'm planning on getting the oscillating fan, next.

Ahhh I saw some toasters with some awesome design here - I think it may have been in Chandlers. The entire case looked to be brushed stainless steel, and it was -heavy-. but so so together a design. Didn't look like it was made from pressed components, but may have been welded. Wasn't cheap either!. Speaking of fans, it's warming up enough that I need one here :).

I'd like to see more chrome in computers too - the iMac has the idea spot-on I think. Since we don't have JET CARS and LASER WEAPONRY like they promised us in the 50s, we could at least get chrome back.

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Trash80toG-4
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USA
2899 Posts
Posted - 27 Sep 2002 :  19:17:29
quote:

Since we don't have JET CARS and LASER WEAPONRY like they promised us in the 50s, we could at least get chrome back.

dana (and a MOON BASE!)



well . . . maybe Tailfins!

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cinemafia
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USA
2965 Posts
Posted - 27 Sep 2002 :  19:50:35
Here's Michael Graves' website, by the way. Oh, and this is the exact phone I have. I can't seem to find a pic of the CD player, though...it's really very unique, though.

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scchicago
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USA
936 Posts
Posted - 27 Sep 2002 :  21:11:45
cool

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Trash80toG-4
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USA
2899 Posts
Posted - 28 Sep 2002 :  08:03:05
feetsPhone!

eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeekometer reading required!

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cory5412
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USA
4679 Posts
Posted - 28 Sep 2002 :  14:42:32
68k Wise, I LOVE the way that my Quadra 840AV looks if i've got it set up with the AudioVision 14", Adjustable Keyboard, and all.

for a conservative design, i'd have to give to the Mac LC or the IIsi, which fit perfectly in with small keyboards and manageable 12" and 14" monitors.

I'm sad to say it, but my Acer Aspire minitower, is a very well designed minitower, at first glance, it's just a floppy drive and CD drive, near the top of a curvacious black minitower, but there's really a door that hides a second big bay and a handle that you use to pull the whole case off (except the backplane.) On the backplane, we have the PS/2 ports on the top of the range of ports, then come 2 DB-9 serial ports, a paralell port after which, we see (where it belongs) a 15 pin VGA connector)
Also, we get both PCI & ISA slots, any of which are actually very recessed into the unit I'd say a nice touch, sometimes if you have a large connector on the back (hmm... need a scsi card...)
The unit has Feets too! not like the feets on the Espresso design language of late 68ks and nearly all PPCs up till iMac, you can have the feet faceing front-back, or all in, or all out towards their side, giving the system a much better stability.

hmm!!! iThink that this would be the perfect case to put a mac into... actually, one shortcoming of the case though, it's HARD to get the case on and off if you're not experienced at it.

My favorite overall form factor for most computers is a low profile desktop, but NOT as wide as the 6100 was UGH, that wide, and it should be taller, but if we had a 7300, in a case that was half as tall would be GREAT (one of the reasons i want a 6360 that would be)

my favorite design in a laptop would be probably the PowerBook G4

I LOVE the way that the NintentoGameCube is designed, and i'd buy it if i weren't saving for a 'BookG4

if i had to pick a favorite of something else, for it's design... well let's see shall we?

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Marchie
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USA
911 Posts
Posted - 28 Sep 2002 :  15:37:56
A 1957-59 Caddilac Ambulance.

THAT was good looking hardware.

I'd like one, gut the back end to make it "livible" as well as hav networking in it, computer hook up... it has FINS!

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oldmacman
Full Member


USA
713 Posts
Posted - 29 Sep 2002 :  08:22:40
I've always thought that SGI hardware was well designed. Functional, yet cool-looking.

NeXT hardware was also nice, especially the cube.

The best looking gadget of all would have to be my 55-year-old Hammarlund HQ-129X. Twelve tubes, a huge metal case, an eight-inch speaker resting on top of it, and sixty pounds of dead weight. That radio has CHARACTER! Even more than that rusted-out mellaphone they gave me to march, but that's another topic.

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danamania
Official 68k Muse


Australia
1193 Posts
Posted - 29 Sep 2002 :  08:37:48
valves look -cool- :D. I was once given a radio/record player which had a cabinet about 2 feet cubed in the middle, which was packed with valves. once it was all dusted out they looked fantastic.

I love some of the SGI stuff - and the early boxy purple & beige sun stuff is pretty nice too. Microsparcs and the pizzaboxy ones especially...

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Trash80toG-4
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USA
2899 Posts
Posted - 29 Sep 2002 :  08:53:57
quote:

valves look -cool- :D. I was once given a radio/record player which had a cabinet about 2 feet cubed in the middle, which was packed with valves.

Valves? The context says "vacuum tubes" to me, is "valve" AUSian for tube or is it called that in the UK and other places that speak "foreign languages."

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danamania
Official 68k Muse


Australia
1193 Posts
Posted - 29 Sep 2002 :  09:38:34
quote:

Valves? The context says "vacuum tubes" to me, is "valve" AUSian for tube or is it called that in the UK and other places that speak "foreign languages."

valves, tubes, all that guff - same thing to us strayans :)

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asan9000
New Member


USA
59 Posts
Posted - 29 Sep 2002 :  18:54:02
hmmm....
I'd have to say:
iMac G4
G4 Cube
TAM
IIgs
and the grandaddy of badass design:
Mac SE

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Trash80toG-4
NIGHT STALKER


USA
2899 Posts
Posted - 29 Sep 2002 :  19:04:20
quote:

hmmm....

and the grandaddy of badass design:
Mac SE



You got that one right anyway!

I can't believe nobody mentioned the IIcx yet, Now THAT was a revolutionary case design and very sexy, especially with the Portrait Display on top of it.

The Powerbook 100 and its descendants in the Duo series were the basis for every modern sub-notebook, VERY elegant hardware design.

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Australia
2822 Posts
Posted - 29 Sep 2002 :  19:21:14
I agree with you on the IIcx, a very nice, small design, and LIGHT! If you've got a decent hand span, you can carry it easily in one hand.
I got mine with the portrait display, too!

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danamania
Official 68k Muse


Australia
1193 Posts
Posted - 29 Sep 2002 :  19:23:55
quote:

I agree with you on the IIcx, a very nice, small design, and LIGHT! If you've got a decent hand span, you can carry it easily in one hand.
I got mine with the portrait display, too!

I just dragged mine out to start it up last night too :). took a little coaxing... and a realisation that the mac II 2 page display card I had in there was just not going to show on the 14" trinitron. oops!.

the IIsi also works for me as a way-clean & tidy design. Ever see the cassie keyboard on applefritter? whoa - lickable too

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Trash80toG-4
NIGHT STALKER


USA
2899 Posts
Posted - 29 Sep 2002 :  20:19:40
quote:

I agree with you on the IIcx, a very nice, small design, and LIGHT! If you've got a decent hand span, you can carry it easily in one hand.
I got mine with the portrait display, too!


I haven't actually got a IIx, mine's the ci, but they never botheresd to do a story on the ci case. The bidirectional IIcx case was a major hit in all the magazine reviews, back in the day.

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cory5412
68KMLA Comrade-in-Arms


USA
4679 Posts
Posted - 29 Sep 2002 :  20:58:12
Hmm... i think that the IIci and si are both VERY good designs, but are targeted at VERY different markets (if they were PPC, they would be anyway)

i also believe that the SGI workstations, at any time are όber-cool, but as it turns out, in Japan, there's MANY MANY much cooler looking computers out there that still retain some whiteness (it's funny, now that every other PC made is black, i'd LOVE to have a white computer...
like an Acer Aspire (recent ones, in japan)

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danamania
Official 68k Muse


Australia
1193 Posts
Posted - 29 Sep 2002 :  21:01:06
Some piccies of the sparcs I like (mentioned up a few posts)

http://www.rkirkpat.net/about.html is one of the little lunchbox sparcs - kind of a fat square 605. No - perhaps not. similar-ish speeds though... a friend has a 50Mhz one.

http://www.fst.umac.mo/lab/soft_tech/ has a few pics of the bigger pizza-ey kinda ones. I think I'd like one of these. Never used a sun before in my life (that I can remember anyhows!) but with purple feet - how could you go wrong?

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cory5412
68KMLA Comrade-in-Arms


USA
4679 Posts
Posted - 29 Sep 2002 :  21:35:52
I was thinking of getting one of the flat SparcStations from RePC, the local place where i get cool stuff, but i didn't quite have enough $$, and i had concerns of the silly monitor connector & Operating systems

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asan9000
New Member


USA
59 Posts
Posted - 30 Sep 2002 :  18:23:32
oh i forgot one. The ImageWriter II. Now that's one fine lookin' printer. And it perfectly complements my SE!

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Kady Mae
Junior Member


USA
261 Posts
Posted - 30 Sep 2002 :  18:39:27
Off the shelf, macs pretty much win hands down.

On the other hand, give a case modder a dremel tool, some neon lights, and some plexi glass and you'll get a work of art.

I dig the VW Beetle cases I've seen, not to mention the "puzzle box" (ie Clive Barker's Hellraiser.)

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cinemafia
Guerrilla Recon Leader


USA
2965 Posts
Posted - 30 Sep 2002 :  18:48:31
quote:
feetsPhone!

Yep! It's a phone with little rubber feet!

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Australia
5830 Posts
Posted - 01 Oct 2002 :  06:26:32
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danamania
Official 68k Muse


Australia
1193 Posts
Posted - 01 Oct 2002 :  06:30:57
quote:

all PBG3s

Oh! absolutley... black and curvy and all gothiclike. yummo... I liked the fatter ones - wallstreets or lombards

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shaktiman
Senior Member


United Kingdom
1226 Posts
Posted - 01 Oct 2002 :  08:07:37
I have recently become much much prettier with my gadgets.

16 bits, Commodore 64 was the prettiest(the white one).

My Quadra 840av is the prettiest as far as serious computers go.

laptop is probably ibook.

I have a PSone which is lovely.

But nowts as pretty as you "danamania" duck [;-)]

(duck, colloquial north Derbyshire term of affection)

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MrLynn
Junior Member


USA
394 Posts
Posted - 01 Oct 2002 :  08:26:25
I'd have to vote for the Cube as the most elegant Mac, or any computer for that matter--just impractical (no expansion slots); would have to lose on the 'form should follow function' principle.

Actually, I like looking at my blue G3, even after three years--or is it four? I think it's a masterpiece of industrial design, and extremely functional, too (easy to lift--handles!--easy to open, and cavernous inside); and as graceful as any computer made; the form perfectly follows the function.

Re the Michael Graves stuff, Cinemafia: neat-looking, but sort of a cross between Art Noveau and Fisher-Price, wouldn't you say?

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shaktiman
Senior Member


United Kingdom
1226 Posts
Posted - 01 Oct 2002 :  09:08:58
shak mumbles to himself, "my quadra 840av's the prettiest"

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danamania
Official 68k Muse


Australia
1193 Posts
Posted - 01 Oct 2002 :  09:33:40
quote:

Commodore 64 was the prettiest(the white one).

Speaking of commodore boxies - the original A1000 was pretty nice. a very simple pizzabox, with a little bay underneath that the entire keyboard would slip into.

quote:

But nowts as pretty as you "danamania" duck [;-)]

but I'm not hardware! I'm more kinda-squishy-ware :D. cept for my head, which is like, wooden or something I swear, sometimes *grin*

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jruschme
Junior Member


USA
196 Posts
Posted - 01 Oct 2002 :  09:35:58
quote:

quote:

all PBG3s

Oh! absolutley... black and curvy and all gothiclike. yummo... I liked the fatter ones - wallstreets or lombards



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Trash80toG-4
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USA
2899 Posts
Posted - 01 Oct 2002 :  10:03:05
quote:

Hmm... I like my women like I like my PowerBooks? :)


WOOT! Thin, fast, sleek, and harder'n stainless steel? LOL!

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shaktiman
Senior Member


United Kingdom
1226 Posts
Posted - 02 Oct 2002 :  02:08:08
Poor dana

Started this thread as which hardware is prettiest & now we sully her ideal by making our machines out to be sexual objects?

sexy things can be pretty but..........

Anyhow,

your lucky you let me know your not hardware dana, I was just heading your way with a huge serial plug.

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USA
873 Posts
Posted - 02 Oct 2002 :  08:15:36
A can't believe that nobody mentioned the Lear Siegler terminal - the original inspiration for the iMac! (A bit about this beauty) It had the most wonderful geek chic look to it: smooth, minimalist, curved, with just a bit of edge. It was what people of the 60s and 70s thought the future was supposed to look like. Connect it to a 300 baud modem, and the computer world was yours!

All you young whipper-snappers are making this coot feel pretty old,

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MrLynn
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USA
394 Posts
Posted - 02 Oct 2002 :  08:54:40
quote:

your lucky you let me know your not hardware dana, I was just heading your way with a huge serial plug.

Talk about single-entendre!

That was pretty close to over-the-line, if you ask me (the line between funny and offensive, that is).

And it's "you're" not "your".

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USA
2899 Posts
Posted - 02 Oct 2002 :  10:25:07
The sleek black design of the Cambridge Z88 (Sir Clive Sinclair) has held up very nicely over the years.

http://perso.club-internet.fr/musepat/z88.htm

I should take mine for a spin, but I have too many toys and not enough thim! But my collection pales in comparison to the images I found of the collection on that site!

http://perso.club-internet.fr/musepat/collec.htm

He's got a great calculator collection too!


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cinemafia
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USA
2965 Posts
Posted - 02 Oct 2002 :  11:43:34
quote:
Re the Michael Graves stuff, Cinemafia: neat-looking, but sort of a cross between Art Noveau and Fisher-Price, wouldn't you say?

Yeah, that's what makes it great!

quote:
I should take mine for a spin, but I have too many toys and not enough thim! But my collection pales in comparison to the images I found of the collection on that site!

http://perso.club-internet.fr/musepat/collec.htm


Egad...that butchered, MIDI version of the Star Wars theme caught me off guard...sound like the same one used in Rogue Squadron, though.


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