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maclover5
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Australia
5830 Posts
Posted - 16 Aug 2003 :  16:02:31
Well said, Gothikon.

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llamaboy487
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USA
516 Posts
Posted - 16 Aug 2003 :  19:28:51
i suggest looking into inc_top.asp and seeing what it does and then... possibly one of our resident web hackers could try a replacement for it?

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The Balance Of Judgement
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Ivory Coast
1006 Posts
Posted - 16 Aug 2003 :  19:43:31
Most likely an upgrade to the latest and greatest of Snitz would solve our case of the Jets Blue.

"Sounds like someone has a case of the Mondays"

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llamaboy487
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USA
516 Posts
Posted - 16 Aug 2003 :  20:12:12
quote:

"Sounds like someone has a case of the Mondays"


HAR™!

Whoever could you be referring to?
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cory5412
68KMLA Comrade-in-Arms


USA
4679 Posts
Posted - 16 Aug 2003 :  20:44:51
personal servers are bad...

I don't think it's a problem with snitz, rather it's either LC's problem, or it's a problem with the database engine, in which case, it's also LC's (other) problem...

we can try to upgrade the snitz, we can fsck with said ASP file and we can complain to coxy, but for the most of the time, we do just fine...

I notice that this only ever happens when one of us is feeling frisky, or when we have a fantastic forum borkout...

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maclover5
LC Doctor/Hot Rodder


Australia
5830 Posts
Posted - 16 Aug 2003 :  21:38:50
quote:

quote:

"Sounds like someone has a case of the Mondays"


HAR™!

Whoever could you be referring to?


Office Space of course.

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llamaboy487
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USA
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Posted - 16 Aug 2003 :  22:43:27
Office Space is the funniest movie of the last 10 years. without question.

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maclover5
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Australia
5830 Posts
Posted - 16 Aug 2003 :  22:45:11
Definately.

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Jobf
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United Kingdom
162 Posts
Posted - 19 Aug 2003 :  00:52:43
OK, it seems like this error is quite common. Here's a link to a site telling you how to fix it:

http://www.webthang.co.uk/tuts/tuts_asp/gk_errors/gk_errors.asp#2

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maclover5
LC Doctor/Hot Rodder


Australia
5830 Posts
Posted - 19 Aug 2003 :  00:55:56
Terrific! ~Coxy, can you hear us?

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~Coxy
Leader, Tactical Ops Unit


Australia
2822 Posts
Posted - 19 Aug 2003 :  18:39:58
The thing is, it *isn't* a permissions error, since the problem occurs intermittently.

My best guess is that something weird happens when the backup script runs or something like that, but since I don't have shell access to the server I can't really know.

I will, however, talk to the Admin again and see if he can have another look at it.

As far as the server issue goes: a day's downtime every couple of weeks is better than the alternative of 3 weeks downtime every month on another free host. After a month of that, though, we'll have lost so many active members that we won't go over the limit! GRRRRRRREAT.

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cory5412
68KMLA Comrade-in-Arms


USA
4679 Posts
Posted - 19 Aug 2003 :  20:04:29
LOL! how true

really though, I agree with ~Coxy on this one, LitClassics should be just fine for us... it only happens once in a blue moon, and even so, it's not like it lasts more than a few days...

which gives us all time to think for a moment...

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The Balance Of Judgement
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Ivory Coast
1006 Posts
Posted - 19 Aug 2003 :  20:13:34
Alot of times If you hit refresh a few times it kicks into gear like it put your on hold.....so patience is a must.

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cory5412
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USA
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Posted - 19 Aug 2003 :  20:21:55
yeah, sometimes it borks for a whopping FIVE MINUTES... and noone seems to bother to come back or something /me raises hand...

I know that I'm guilty... I'm not going to waste my valuable dialed up time if the MLA's down

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maclover5
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Australia
5830 Posts
Posted - 20 Aug 2003 :  02:16:39
quote:

The thing is, it *isn't* a permissions error, since the problem occurs intermittently.

My best guess is that something weird happens when the backup script runs or something like that, but since I don't have shell access to the server I can't really know.

I will, however, talk to the Admin again and see if he can have another look at it.

As far as the server issue goes: a day's downtime every couple of weeks is better than the alternative of 3 weeks downtime every month on another free host. After a month of that, though, we'll have lost so many active members that we won't go over the limit! GRRRRRRREAT.

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Well said. Good luck on stopping these JETs from crashing! Btw, like i said, Mordor$oft should never enter the aircraft industry.

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Unknown_K
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USA
602 Posts
Posted - 20 Aug 2003 :  08:44:04
This board is becoming more unreliable every day :(


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cory5412
68KMLA Comrade-in-Arms


USA
4679 Posts
Posted - 20 Aug 2003 :  11:07:29
it usually only happens like this once every month or so... ~ish

it'll be all better in a few days...

even if it itsn't... that won't stop me from coming here

if you're really dedicated to the MLA, you'll help improve it by posting and being active here, and attracting new life.

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The Balance Of Judgement
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Ivory Coast
1006 Posts
Posted - 20 Aug 2003 :  12:57:41
Or pay Coxy 200 dollars so he can purchase dedicated hosting. for a year or two.

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Da Penguin
Senior Member


USA
1094 Posts
Posted - 20 Aug 2003 :  13:24:40
BoJ, you bring up an interesting point. I think we should definately stick with these forums and hosting, and try to fix them, but It would be interesting how many people thought the problem was bad enough they would pitch in for a year, two, three, etc.
Once money comes into it, people usually start to realize sticking here isn't all that bad . I have been here allmost two years, and I love it here.

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Unknown_K
Full Member


USA
602 Posts
Posted - 20 Aug 2003 :  17:24:59
Think of how many new users try to connect and cant so they delete the link from their browser and head to another forum.

IF this site keeps screwing up every day like it has been I might start looking for another 68k mac specific site.

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cory5412
68KMLA Comrade-in-Arms


USA
4679 Posts
Posted - 20 Aug 2003 :  18:23:15
well... I wouldn't say that... I think that it's just that these people have other things, or aren't dedicated to the 68k enough... /me notes "leechers"

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Ivory Coast
1006 Posts
Posted - 20 Aug 2003 :  20:32:07
Yes, we have a tonne of people who came here by way of google and signed up for the express purpose of leeching what members here have spent time collecting.

Many never posted again.

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cory5412
68KMLA Comrade-in-Arms


USA
4679 Posts
Posted - 21 Aug 2003 :  06:11:55
if you mean about reading older posts, you don't need to be a member, or even sign up to do that, and I believe it's the right of people to read what we've written...

I don't mind people who ask a question... because if it forces us to find out, at least we know as well...

you really have a "thing" about not letting leechers in and such..

One of my thoughts, is that in a way, we all "leech", but we leech from eachother, creating an equillibrium...

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Da Penguin
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USA
1094 Posts
Posted - 21 Aug 2003 :  07:37:30
BoJ, If I understand right, means the people who come in here wanting immidiate help, and then leave without the most important contribution, a 'thanks.' I happily let people (in the day) take stuff from my server when they were genuine and were polite and nice. It isnt necisarily the 'just taking,' its the taking without any respect or admiration that I think he finds annoying.

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Ivory Coast
1006 Posts
Posted - 21 Aug 2003 :  12:49:04
Yeah, they sign up to whine or ask about where they can find Rhapsody or some mac game then they don't say a word or just disapear like a ghost.

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cory5412
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USA
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Posted - 21 Aug 2003 :  19:37:06
lol, I call those people "Rhapsody Gold Diggers" because all they want is rhapsody

it's kinda sad... at one time I had at least five people eMailing me asking for it...

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Derekcat
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USA
342 Posts
Posted - 21 Aug 2003 :  22:53:26
*blinsk…* didn't Rhapsody look a lot like NeXT Step? [I think I've only seen a couple sreen shots… Classic Apple logo in the login screen?]

but yea… They should stick around, and read though at least most of the stuff, and then give back at least a little they know about something…


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Unknown_K
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USA
602 Posts
Posted - 22 Aug 2003 :  03:55:44
Most people just look for a game or app to add to their collection and move on. Very few people have a continuing interest in the hardware.

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The Balance Of Judgement
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Ivory Coast
1006 Posts
Posted - 22 Aug 2003 :  05:07:39
Sad really, they could get so much more out of the platform. I mean, yes in a technical and commercial sense the platform is dead, but they still are enduring machines that for general use still have thier place. And they are so fun to use. :)

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cory5412
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USA
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Posted - 22 Aug 2003 :  05:44:56
yeah, the funny thing is, they make the effort to post it...

if they'd just use the search feature or read a bit, they woudln't even have to sign up to get that crucial infos

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maclover5
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Australia
5830 Posts
Posted - 22 Aug 2003 :  07:48:34
Really, it is sad. Any member that signs up here has a great potential to learn a lot about the 68k Macintosh computers. However, most of them are only inclined to leech of the rest of the population.

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wisof
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USA
257 Posts
Posted - 22 Aug 2003 :  09:22:03
I have to honestly say I was trying to find a quick fix when I first came across this vast resource. I knew next to nothing on 68k macs. Because I have practiced on a few macs in the past months I am starting to get more comforable sharing my knowledge with others. People here have been friendly/helpful/funny. The error messages are annoying, yes, but so are some other forums. The MLA just feels right. Feels like I am going out every saturday morning for a purpose, as ridiculous as that may be.

thanks

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Posted - 22 Aug 2003 :  10:38:49
exactly, that is just about the size of it

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maclover5
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Australia
5830 Posts
Posted - 22 Aug 2003 :  14:46:44
quote:

I have to honestly say I was trying to find a quick fix when I first came across this vast resource. I knew next to nothing on 68k macs. Because I have practiced on a few macs in the past months I am starting to get more comforable sharing my knowledge with others. People here have been friendly/helpful/funny. The error messages are annoying, yes, but so are some other forums. The MLA just feels right. Feels like I am going out every saturday morning for a purpose, as ridiculous as that may be.

I agree. I'm actually learning stuff and having fun at the same time....sneaky.

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cory5412
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Posted - 22 Aug 2003 :  19:06:44
lol... yeah, I even can do this at school

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