Jeremy

"I'll see you on the Dark Side Of The Moon" - Pink Floyd

Jeremy

"I'll see you on the Dark Side Of The Moon" - Pink Floyd

I dunno, thats what lost me. Not trying to be insulting or nuffin, just tryin to get the facts here.

~The Penguin

Jeremy

"I'll see you on the Dark Side Of The Moon" - Pink Floyd

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SO Trash what do you say to my offer I posted earlier?

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jt ™.
Trash Hauler: call sign: eight-ball
C.O. AC-130H SpecOps 68kMLAAF

Jeremy

"I'll see you on the Dark Side Of The Moon" - Pink Floyd

Jeremy

"I'll see you on the Dark Side Of The Moon" - Pink Floyd

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You are gettin a PEx mobo! Remeber Captain is taking one tower (9700) and the PEx mobo and testing both and then sending you the working one,

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Visit Captain Z's Starbase of EV Stuff

he already sold one minitower prototype on eBay.

Ti's original claim was for one minitower and one desktop.

something is just not right with this scenario, in my opinion.

i think it'd be really unseemly for that PEx tower to end up sold to an outsider if everyone didn't at least get a working first choice box out of this deal or, in my case, the first choices of any unanticipated schwag...

to my way of thinking, all the "extra" PEx boards would fall under the heading of additional loot that we had not anticipated. this was consistently my claim after it appeared that all the high end systems that i had desired (in a last "first round draft pick" kind of arrangement) had been sold/multiply-claimed out from under me.

does anybody in the consortium dispute this interpretation?

~The Penguin

Jeremy

"I'll see you on the Dark Side Of The Moon" - Pink Floyd

Jeremy

"I'll see you on the Dark Side Of The Moon" - Pink Floyd

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The only reason I posted that is because I was not sure if you are going to go through the deal I offered, cause if you don't buyou guys I need a good fast computer for video/photoshop and money is very scarice right now so its do or die forme. Trash what is your stand on my deal offer?

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jt ™.
Trash Hauler: call sign: eight-ball
C.O. AC-130H SpecOps 68kMLAAF

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how many A/V personality cards are there? If Ti really wants money, sell 2-3 of these and have around $300, dont cheat people outta machines they deserve.

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Visit Captain Z's Starbase of EV Stuff

Jeremy

"I'll see you on the Dark Side Of The Moon" - Pink Floyd

~The Penguin

Jeremy

"I'll see you on the Dark Side Of The Moon" - Pink Floyd

(Momentary brain fart. I've been opening up G3 AIO's all day seeing A/V Personality Cards, and for got what I was talking about.)

Also, maybe we should start thinking of locking down this topic and expanding it into a new topic. The only reason I say that is because it take forever to reply to a message (takes around 30 seconds for me to load the reply page). Does 600 posts sound like a reasonable cutoff before we move to a new topic?

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Jeremy

"I'll see you on the Dark Side Of The Moon" - Pink Floyd

Also, in response to Cap. Z's response, i agree. I mean yeah it works quick enough down here on the iMac (altho even that refresgh isnt too quick) but once you start getting on lower and lower machines (less RAM and speed and whatnot), this page becomnes a killer to reply to. Then again, I don't think the forums were meant to handle this kinda a thread .

~The Penguin

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Also, in response to Cap. Z's response, i agree. I mean yeah it works quick enough down here on the iMac (altho even that refresgh isnt too quick) but once you start getting on lower and lower machines (less RAM and speed and whatnot), this page becomnes a killer to reply to. Then again, I don't think the forums were meant to handle this kinda a thread .

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i don't know what you guys are complaining about, it's right snappy over DSL on my . . . . . . . . err . . . never mind!

jt ™.
Trash Hauler: call sign: eight-ball
C.O. AC-130H SpecOps 68kMLAAF

If Ti originally claimed a desktop [I do recall he was going on about a 6100?] and a mini-tower, and he sold a mini-tower already, it doesn't make ANY sense AT ALL that he a) gets a PEx mobo for himself AND b) gets to trade an ADDITIONAL 6400 for a PC that he "needs" for video and photoshop

anybody else with me?

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I'm with JT on this whole-heartedly.

If Ti originally claimed a desktop [I do recall he was going on about a 6100?] and a mini-tower, and he sold a mini-tower already, it doesn't make ANY sense AT ALL that he a) gets a PEx mobo for himself AND b) gets to trade an ADDITIONAL 6400 for a PC that he "needs" for video and photoshop

anybody else with me?

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jt ™.
Trash Hauler: call sign: eight-ball
C.O. AC-130H SpecOps 68kMLAAF

Jeremy

"I'll see you on the Dark Side Of The Moon" - Pink Floyd

I received my package today from ti and here's the scoop:

First off, i took some pictures and there are now here

I will begin with the small stuff:
The ethernet "repeater" was just a 10-base 2 / 10baset adapter. not a bug deal, i knew somebody that needed that.

The philips video card (which i took 2 pics) is super cool.
1) it is labeled "pcb, ld50 tv tuner *** ap2414-02 *** Apple Computer Inc. (c) 1994" the *** mean a new line.
2) it has NO female slots and NO male slots.
3) it measures about 4 in x 6 in.
4) It has on one side (i'm calling it the back) a co-ax plug, one composite plug, and a phonojack plug (NOT the typical power plug that has the middle shaft.)
5) other side has a phono jack (audio out?), a composite plug, a rca plug, and to the far end something that looks like an infrared sensor.

I did some searching and here are some interesting facts:
1) LD50 was the code name for the mac tv.
2) as far as i could find all the tv tuner cards that i could find were to be in some slot of some kind
3) I have found NO info regarding this card at all, as far as i know it doesn't exist.

If i were to guess, it looks like it could have gone in a separate box that was intended to be just for tv tuning and captured on a mac, again, i'm just guessing.

and last off the freakentosh!:

Here is the bad news... the processor has been badly damaged leaving 4-5 leads cut away from the mobo!!!! It looks like somebody jabbed at it with a screwdriver. (Ti??? j/k)

Good news: it looks like a great piece of apple history.

It has a small yellow sticker that you can see in the last picture that says "90 mhz 601" and the processor is indeed a 601, so i'm assuming it's 90 mhz. It looks identical to my friend's 7200/75 except for 4 chips that are to the left of the rom upgrade slot. on his machine, they are labeled #####6-9 so i'm guessing that they might be roms. I pictured all the labels except all of grand central, my camera was running out of batteries. I'll eventually get better pictures and locations of where everything is.

The cd rom ti sent me was an IDE which is useless to me until i put my 8500 in a large pc case (which will be soon)

overall it was sad to see that the freakentosh was not going to work, but it's still a great machine to have around. unfortunately the case is beaten up badly and isn't worth using for another mobo. the quote on the board was funny: "your plastic pal who's fun to be with" what that means, i don't know, but i will be stealing it for my profile. I think i documented everything about the freakentosh, the tv tuner is a different story, that's a total mystery to me and i might need help figuring out what it is.

until next time...

Jeremy

"I'll see you on the Dark Side Of The Moon" - Pink Floyd

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I did some searching and here are some interesting facts:
1) LD50 was the code name for the mac tv.
2) as far as i could find all the tv tuner cards that i could find were to be in some slot of some kind
3) I have found NO info regarding this card at all, as far as i know it doesn't exist.

If i were to guess, it looks like it could have gone in a separate box that was intended to be just for tv tuning and captured on a mac, again, i'm just guessing.

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It could be the processor board for the Apple Presentation System (the one where you connect your Mac to the box, and box to TV). Only a guess though. If not, I would say you have a very rare board.

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Was there another presentation box made by apple that somebody here could post pictures of?

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Do you think AppleFritter's Tom Owad wants write-ups on these systems? After all they ARE rare and unusual...

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is that corner of the proc the only damaged circuitry?

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you'll probably have just one shot to get them bent so that they don't short against each other. when pins like that break off from metal fatigue, there's not always enough left exposed to solder a jumper wire onto.

a few shots from different angles might be good enough for us to see how bad it is.

Jeremy

"I'll see you on the Dark Side Of The Moon" - Pink Floyd

i looked as close as i could and counted the empty slots on the bottom and counted how many leads i had and it looks as if one is missing. I think i know where it's at and it nothing sticks out. it looks like the same leads might run below the processor which you can sorta see in the blown up show of the lead on the left. It shoots off to the right, but there is also a wire that runs behind and then below. I can't see much else. the one that is missing is the second from the left.

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speaking of ROMs, has anybody googled the ID numbers on the two IC's between the ROM slot and the DRAM slots on the frankentosh mobo yet?

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Heavy Weapons Specialist - 950 division
Liberated Macs: 12
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the pic of the chips are here:
http://homepage.mac.com/avavricek/PhotoAlbum10.html

btw if the photo album is a pain let me know, but also tell me how to post a link of just the picture and skip the itools stuff. i don't know how to.

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Edited by - Trash80toG-4 on 11 Jul 2002 21:47:18

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