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Macintosh SE M5011 - Restoration

An older friend from work just gave me his SE M5011, apparently he has no attachment to it, and didn't want to deal with selling it. I had told him of my recent success of an SE M5010 restoration, and of another work in progress with a fussy SE/30. So he figured I could use some more old Mac stuff

Not too yellow.
20250409_162947.jpgThought for certain the floppy in there was stuck, due to the eject gear turning to cheddar cheese, but this one still ejects!

The most incredible thing to me, was it has every manual and brochure, even the order sheet, as well as some other neat stuff.
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Warranty card and order sheet.
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Lots of information on Special Education, or peripherals and software to aid the physically impaired.
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The manuals look unopened, all of them.
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Hyper Card still has the seals on the floppies.
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The LocalTalk manual is still shrink wrapped, I think I was the first to open the box.
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No battery leak.
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This SE and all the stuff in the pics, was stored in a shed, by the ocean, so it has a damp smell to it, and so far the SE Tour disk wouldn't work. I couldn't see mold on the disk surface, but the media feels difficult to rotate in the jacket. Will have to test a few more of those, the System Tools and Utilities disks might not work either. I did test a newer SE Tour disk and it does work, the drive is good.
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The 20Mb HDD also still works. It made some high pitch noises moving the head for the first few times, after all of these years, but it seems to be quieting down and working well now.
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The previous owner would like to have his hard drive files, he's in his early 80's and won't retire, he's able to understand the concept of Basilisk II, so I'd like to use BlueSCSI v2 to image his physical drive, so he can have his SE system exactly as it was on his current laptop.
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Going to use this video to get the drive clone procedure and settings, and then test the image with Basilisk II.

This bundle also included a couple of Apple 8-pin communication cables, going to try to talk to my broken SE/30 with these cables, using an SE terminal at some point.
 
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After watching the ADB video, I had to do it differently, as I don't have a Y, or a berg connector.
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These are the jumper settings I used - the cloning process is able to be run solely over the 50-pin SCSI cable, using the SE PSU, or external PSU: PWR-ON=closed, TRM_PWR=closed, both Initiator jumpers=closed, Back_Feed=open
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What the process looked and sounded like:

This 20Mb HDD took a while, but it completed the process, and I was left with a 20Mb .HDA file, and a log file on the SD card.

I immediately tired the .HDA file in Basilisk II, but got the bomb error screen. It would not boot. The original 20mb drive does still boot.

Looked at the BlueSCSI log, and it was filled with sector errors, here's the summary from the BlueSCSI log:
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Even if I were to use a repair utility to reallocate those bad sectors, I'm thinking the image might still not work due to bad sectors.

Is there a good HDD repair program out there that would run on this SE?
 
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Not sure if this will help, but I was able to successfully image the same style drive (40MB version) only once I oriented the hard drive in its side:

Post in thread 'How to fix Quantum ProDrive 40S from SE/30'
https://68kmla.org/bb/index.php?threads/how-to-fix-quantum-prodrive-40s-from-se-30.48844/post-548690

In your case maybe tip entire machine on its side ?

In the thread I mention “magnet side up” - in the thread is a video of the drive with the lid off, and in the video you can see power connector is on same side of the drive as the magnets. So try imaging with the hard drive on its side, oriented so that the power connector is “up”.
 
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Thanks for the reply!

The HDD from this SE 5011 never had a problem with turning the platters, this one sounded like the head was stuck on first boot. Probably scratched the platters pretty good where the head was stuck, and then forced to spin again. The motor is great on this 5011 HDD, but I need some kind of disk utility that can fix/reallocate those bad sectors - or else I'll have to see if I can recover the files individually, from what still works.

The other (2) old Mac HDD's I have here, I figured I would try to image, as everything was already setup.
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The gold CMS HDD was found in a SE 5010, the platters wouldn't rotate, so I opened it months ago and got it to spin, but no recoverable data, or boot was ever possible, wouldn't even begin to image, the heads just wave back in forth in a repeatable pattern and it fails.

The Quantum 40 from the SE/30 has a burnt stepper motor, the platters will never spin, or even attempt to.

Going to make door stops, or an 'art' out of these old HDD's, they're done.


Might be time to try one of the new 8-pin cables that came with this, to connect from this SE to a broken SE/30 logic board, that I can't seem to contact from a PC/USB.

Is there a Terminal program built in to System 6, or would I need to install a Terminal suitable to connect to the Se/30 LB? I've not used the COM port on a Mac before.

Thanks.
 
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I would give Disk First Aid 7.2.2 a shot at repairing the image. I believe that version even works in Basilisk II.
 
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