Macintosh PC Exchange

[CelGen]

I could of sworn that to make the Apple 5.25" PC floppy drive and card work with a mac all you needed was the PC exchange program. At least, that's all I needed to make it work on my IIfx.

In my SE however I can't seem to get the machine to detect the 5.25" drive. Was there more to the installer that I'm missing? I initially swiped the program off one of the System 7 floppy install sets years ago.

 

[Elfen]

Plugging in a Apple II Drive straight into a Mac would blow out the SWIM Chip. If your SWIM chip survived, consider yourself lucky that it didn't but the Drive might be blown out as well...

Mac/PC Exchange only allows Macs with High Density Drives to read 720K & 1.44M PC DOS Formatted Disks and you to access those files with the appropriate programs (like documents in MS Word 4.0 between PC & Macs). Later versions of PC Exchange can handle PC Windows files better and do not screw up headers as often, it also allowed networked volumes to be accessed.

If you can get Utility Dog or some other Unerase program, you should be able to undelete the file from the Floppy Disk if you did not wrote other files to it. PC Exchange was both an extension and a control panel, so it's 2 files and not 1.

 

[NJRoadfan]

He is referring to the PC 5.25" drive that came with a Nubus or SE PDS interface card. PC Exchange likely works with it in addition to some sort of driver extension.

Alright, looks like a program called "Apple File Exchange 7.0" was needed with these, the precursor to the PC Exchange control panel. It might require System 6.x.

 

[Elfen]

or some reason I thought he was plugging in an Apple II Drive into a Mac, even though they are of the same connector, they are not of the same pin-outputs!

DataVIs/ClarisWorks had a collection of extensions that allowed file compatibility between Mac and PC Files within certain header restrictions. As did Microsoft but only for Microsoft Office files between PCs and Macs. I need to fire up one of my PowerBooks but I remember PC Exchange being an extension and a control panel; when you clicked on the control panel, you can associate what PC files endings (like .txt, .rtf, and .doc) went what that Mac program. However, this was for System 7. By System 8, things were more universal and automated between Mac & PC file endings.

 

[slomacuser]

You need Apple File Exchange. Utilities 2 disk of System 6.0.3

 

[Paralel]

AFE 7 will work in any version of System 7 from 7.0 through 7.1.1

For the System 7 install disk series, its either Install 2 or Tidbits. One of the two.

 

[CelGen]

or some reason I thought he was plugging in an Apple II Drive into a Mac, even though they are of the same connector, they are not of the same pin-outputs!

Not to sound coarse but I've been meddling with classic macs for over 15 years now. If I didn't know this already I should be considering a different hobby.

I know of the later PC Exchange you are referring to but that only seemed to pop up in system 7.5 and later. I don't think it has any compatibility with the 5.25" adapters.

He is referring to the PC 5.25" drive that came with a Nubus or SE PDS interface card. PC Exchange likely works with it in addition to some sort of driver extension.

Alright, looks like a program called "Apple File Exchange 7.0" was needed with these, the precursor to the PC Exchange control panel. It might require System 6.x.

Correct. I now have both the SE PDS and NuBus versions of the cards and two drives. The copy I have at least is confirmed to work with the NuBus card under system 7.1.

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You need Apple File Exchange. Utilities 2 disk of System 6.0.3

AFE 7 will work in any version of System 7 from 7.0 through 7.1.1

For the System 7 install disk series, its either Install 2 or Tidbits. One of the two.

Okay, so just that, huh? I wonder if this is version dependent....or there's something else wrong...

 

[NJRoadfan]

PC Exchange was originally a separate utility one had to buy. Some Macs came with it pre-installed and it came with System 7 Pro. Apple later included it free with System 7.5.

 

[Elfen]

Interesting NJRoadfan, as I had it since System 6 but I had the PC Drive that CelGen displayed. But I also had it since system 7.1 for free as well on my personal system. But like you stated, I started seeing it in System 7.5 in every school based Mac soon after.

 

[CelGen]

Well I switched out the copy I had installed with another copy. We're at version 7 now and it's still not working. :-/

 

[Paralel]

What version of the SSW are you using?

 

[CelGen]

7.1. Same version that I'm using with the other card and drive on the IIfx.

 

[Paralel]

Huh. That's difficult to explain. Sorry, I couldn't be more helpful.

 

[Scott Baret]

PC Exchange also came with the Campus Software Set for Macintosh (both floppy and CD versions).