(In English) Identification help: Early Apple Lisa found in storage (Assembled in Ireland)

[stefano.t]

(sorry for the previous message wrote in Italian!! I'm not able to delete it!)

Hi everyone,

I just pulled an old Apple Lisa out of storage—I actually found this unit more than 35 years ago and it’s been tucked away ever since. I’m trying to verify exactly what I have here.

Here are the specs from the labels:

• Model: A6SB100P
• Memory: A6SB108 (I think—the photo I took is a bit blurry)
• Serial Number: B08B831950217
• Applenet: 00102850
• Manufactured: 83195
• Assembled in: Ireland
• Firmware: 341-0290-B / Apple 84
• Power: 220V PSU

My deductions so far:Based on the manufacturing date (day 195 of 1983, which is July 14th), I believe this started life as a Lisa 1. However, I noticed some conflicting info online suggesting that Irish production/sales didn't officially ramp up until October '83.

It seems this unit was later upgraded (likely in 1984) because it now features a 3.5" floppy drive instead of the original Twiggies. I also have the keyboard and a Mac-style mouse, but no external HDD.

A couple of questions for the experts here:

1. Is my assessment of the manufacturing date and "Lisa 1" origin correct?
2. Does the "Assembled in Ireland" tag in July '83 align with what you know about European production?

I'd love to hear your thoughts before I decide on the next steps for restoration!
(first one will be to remove the batteries)

 

[bibilit]

Hard to say, many early (most) Apple Lisas were first built as Lisa 1 and converted later on.

 

[finkmac]

i think you have a lisa 2

 

[stefano.t]

i think you have a lisa 2

I thought the Lisa 2 was released on January 24th, 1984... mine appears to be a 1983 build that was later updated with the 3.5" floppy drive and the new Boot ROM, or am I wrong?

 

[finkmac]

it has a 3.5" floppy drive and a lisa2 faceplate... that's a lisa 2

 

[stefano.t]

it has a 3.5" floppy drive and a lisa2 faceplate... that's a lisa 2

perhaps my English is not perfectly understandable...
Mine seems that is borned as Lisa 1, than has been upgraded to a Lisa 2 with the kit
Some parts are remained from the original Lisa 1 and some was replaced with the new parts in the kit.

from Wikipedia:
Owners of the original Lisa (1983) computer with Twiggy drives and software were offered free upgrades to the Lisa 2. The upgrade replaced the pair of Twiggy drives with a single 3.5-inch drive and updating the boot ROM and I/O ROM and modification to the I/O board. The upgrade included the new Lisa 2's new front faceplate to accommodate the newer microdisk (400K) drive which incorporated the new inlaid Apple logo.