HELP WITH CREATING 800K MACINTOSH BOOT FLOPPIES!!

[ROLLERMANZ]

Hello Guys,

I have a working Macintosh Plus, Classic ii, IMac G3, IMac G4 and Mac G4 towers. I also have 1.44mb and few 800k floppy disks.. 

The macintosh plus and classic ii I own have working floppy diskettes.. What i need help with is how do you create a bootable 800k system floppy disks for the macintosh plus which is surely 800k floppy disk.

I have bootable system 6 and 7 on 1.44mb floppies but having trouble with creating bootable 800k floppies.. it doesn't matter what system bootable 800k floppies I create.. All what matters is I want the macintosh Plus running..

I have downloaded 800k system files from various website (including Apple's support website) but still no help

I don't have any external SCSI floppy drives by the way.

Would appreciate anybody giving some help to this please

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Thank you 

 

[Elfen]

The floppy works on the Classic II? Then it should be simple. This for a Mac Boot Disk with no Installer Program on it...

- Put in a 800K into the Classic II and format it. If the Classic II is running System 6, it will ask if you want a 400K or 800K Disk. If you are running System 7, it will ask if you want a Mac, MS-DOS or Apple ProDOS format. Choose 800K or Mac.

Under System 6, if there are any bad sectors on the disk, it will spit it out and say 'Bad Disk.' If it's System 7, it will mark out the bad sectors, making a usable but smaller than 800K Disk. I think the limit is 600K before System 7 gives up on formatting a disk with errors.

- When formatting is done, eject the disk and put it on the side for a while. Put in the High Density (1.4M) floppy with the system you want on the 800K Disk.

- Make a folder on your hard drive and name it "Other Systems for Plus" or something like that. Drag and copy the system folder from the floppy into this folder. Eject disk when done.

- Open the system folder you just copied and go into the extensions and control panels. You are going to trash a few files you do not need. Flies like: Mode32, Ethernet extensions, assorted Laser Printers (but keep the LaserWriter and ImageWriter printers so Chooser wont have a fit in not having any printers), Any PowerBook Options, you get the idea. Close the folder and "Get Information" of the folder to see if it is under 800K. If it's not under 800K, you need to remove more stuff.

*If the System file is huge, you need to get in it with System 7 (or System 6 with F/DA Mover) and remove a lot of your fonts. The most you will need is Chicago, Geneva, Helvetica, and Times fonts, al sizes from 9pt to 36pt. These are the fonts the system uses so they have to be there. Remove other Desktop Accessories like screen savers. Get that system as small as possible.

** What I like to do, though its dangerous to do it, is to go into the System File with RedEdit and remove all the color options that are in the system. Color Icons, (most) Color Dialogs, listing of color monitors, etc. With the color dialogs, verify if there is a B/W version of that dialog, and if there is, delete the color one.

*** If you need other Fonts or DAs, you can add them later. Right now we are getting that System to fit onto a floppy and get it to boot on a Plus.

- By now you should have gotten the system folder to under 800K. Put your blank floppy in the Classic II and drag - copy the system folder into the floppy. It should get blessed on the floppy when it gets done copying. If not, open the system folder and go over its contents. Closing it should get it blessed (giving you a tiny Mac inside a folder).

Now try it on the Plus. If you did everything correctly, it should boot the Plus.

 

[ROLLERMANZ]

Thank you very much.. Just did it and woooow it worked .. Thanks alot .. I also need to know that where can i find the system 4,5 files and they should be working because i will be putting them on disks

 

[Elfen]

There is no System 5 for Mac, there might be  System 4.5 but I do not have it. You can look at my (very old) site for some System Software that I have: http://members.tripod.com/elfen_magix/VMSsoftware.html

I no longer make bootable disks as I do not have a working old Mac to make them with.

Jag's House has from System 6 to System 8: http://www.jagshouse.com/macos.html

Jag Links to Apple for older System software but Apple has from System 6.03 on...: http://www.info.apple.com/support/oldersoftwarelist.html

The older software is out there online. You just need to find them. Hint: Make Google you friend.

 

[Macdrone]

There is a system 5 for mac.  I have a brand new 5.0 box.  I gave a shrink-wrapped version to Mcdermd.  It was more like say a business release it looks like but its a system.

It will say system version 4.2 , but finder version 6.0 (in about but box says 5.0)

 

[ROLLERMANZ]

Any Link 

Macdrone?

 

[Mac128]

There is a system 5 for mac. I have a brand new 5.0 box.

Yeah best to ignore that -- Apple's early numbering system was a mess.

Check this out:

http://earlymacintosh.org

 

[jsarchibald]

There is a system 5 for mac.  I have a brand new 5.0 box.  I gave a shrink-wrapped version to Mcdermd.  It was more like say a business release it looks like but its a system.

It will say system version 4.2 , but finder version 6.0 (in about but box says 5.0)

Yep, I have System 5.0 in the box too.  Can't say I've ever used System 5.0, should give it a go one day.

 

[westcoastech]

Ya System 5.0 was actually System 4.3 I believe, they had System Software version numbers and System version numbers and then Finder version numbers, so three separate numbers that could easily be confused with one another. I have all 4 x 5.0 disks as well. I pretty much have all System versions either on 400k or 800k format and many spare disks, if you ever need me to make you some I could easily do so.

 

[ROLLERMANZ]

Is it okay if you can send me the files of all these mac system westcoastech ?