Caps! -- Macintosh SE/30

[uniserver]

Gentleman, Trag should post his email address, so the many people that see this as a guest can contact him direct for a High-end Quality Cap kit.

I am probably going to start selling DIY kits, but with OEM STOCK parts in the kits for all the common boards,

Included will be a color laser legal print out of the main board, with my main board image.

I have to wait to get my paycheck, and to fix all these boards from macdrone first though.

going to use all my nifty mouser links and go to town. Get some usps padded envelopes.

I'd be more then happy to help you my way, World.

I will sell 2 cap packages, I'll call them:

- Package 1- "The Bone Stock Fix" - Alum Can Caps

- Package 2- "I am a cheap ass Fix" - All Radials - Aka "Christmas Trees"

(My prices will be much less then anyone else package kits)

Both packages will include basic to minimal customer service

iamcapsmack@gmail.com

 

[uniserver]

Tantalum Capacitors -(Kemet) Solid SMD 10%

(47uf 43 Cents ea) http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Kemet/T491C476K016AT/?qs=sGAEpiMZZMtZ1n0r9vR22WQok64Lf3O1OdZc8yJGuPA%3d

(1uf 14 Cents ea) http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Kemet/T491A105K035AT/?qs=sGAEpiMZZMuEN2agSAc2plg9mRgM350BQreS0dFWegk%3d

 

[trag]

Gentleman, Trag should post his email address, so the many people that see this as a guest can contact him direct for a High-end Quality Cap kit.

My email address is available in the FS posting sticky'd at the top of Trading Post and has been for the last five years.

It may be my imagination, but you seem kind of hostile. Any particular reason why?

 

[trag]

The whole point to all this effort is to get away from the good old boy, PM - word of mouth communication,

Our efforts to date have not done that. The needed capacitors are clearly listed in the Wiki. Anyone who wishes can go and order those parts for themselves at a regular supplier. For folks who aren't comfortable doing that, there's a link to my FS in Trading Post.

That's hardly a "good old boy PM, word of mouth communication".

It's a straight forward web page providing information that anyone can access. No limitation on access, as your "good old boy" reference would seem to imply. PM is totally unnecessary to any portion of the process and there's no word of mouth involved at all.

Adding links to the actual pages at the suppliers is nice, but those links change over time, and there are many workable choices available.

What is your problem, that you feel the need to run down the work done by others at great effort before you? It's great that you want to help out and contribute, but running down the efforts others have put in earlier is not helping. And suggesting that folks put radial caps on surface mount pads is just plain misguided. Radial caps provide a lever which can lift a pad quicker than any other mishap. Surface mount pads should only be populated with surface mount caps if you want the board to last.

And just so there's no confusion, I don't make money off of the capacitor selling. Oh, if one did a strict net in, net out accounting, I've probably managed to make a little more than I've spent by now. And I've donated some or all of that (uncertain since I don't know the amount) to 68kmla.

If you can come up with a perfect system which will get me out of the capacitor business, that would be swell, as the tiny return isn't what motivates me to put in the time and keep the materials around. However, in the mean time, I really don't appreciate the unwarranted criticism of our past efforts.

 

[uniserver]

I'm sorry you feel that way,

however, what you are saying, is not what i am doing.

In regards to radials, i would suggest to lay them down, not stand them up,

if you chose to use this method as a fix.

In regards to you making money, hey, if you do great, if not, great.

We're trying to compile a collaborative effort here. That is what i'm doing.

This drama bull crap has to go.

Its not going to get people boards fixed, there are many ways to fix something,

that is in the decision of the person completing the work.

also in-reguadrs to the pricing in the links changing,

and ill take it one more level, in-stock availability as well.

This would require some maintenance witch i am willing to do, after all they are threads and the info can be updated.

 

[trag]

We're trying to compile a collaborative effort here. That is what i'm doing.

This drama bull crap has to go.

Its not going to get people boards fixed, there are many ways to fix something,

that is in the decision of the person completing the work.

No, what you're doing is failing to listen to anything anyone else has to say on the topic. That is not a collaborative effort. But you're obviously a man on a mission. You may be wrong about almost everything, but the energy you're putting in is really great. Carry on.

 

[uniserver]

thanks! i appreciate that.

Hey post your email address in here, The Trading post is not available to the outside world,

maybe sell some Caps, Suggestion, Try to make some money, Profit is a good thing.

Also, I'v tried to buy stuff from you before and it was not a good experience,

you took like 3 days to get back to me, i told you what i wanted to re-cap, you were not sure what i needed,

and so on..

So work some on your customer service.

I am putting in this effort to benefit everyone. Not just the good ol boys on 68kmla.

 

[JDW]

For what it's worth, I've also used electrolytic radial capacitors to recap some other of my SE/30 motherboards in the past:




But again, I found the SMD tantalum capacitors offered by Trag to be a better solution in terms of capacitor longevity, and one that is also more aesthetically pleasing too. But perhaps one of the greatest benefits of getting the entire kit from Trag is the fact that many of us here in these forums live outside the United States. As such, it usually costs us a heck of a lot more money to buy individual capacitors from online sellers such as JAMECO or DigiKey, and here in Japan, there are no local Radio Shacks.

Trag has been an active member of our forum here for many years, and he has contributed positively on many topics regarding vintage Mac upgrades and mods, and he is an honest and trustworthy "friend," not merely a coldhearted "profiteering seller." I feel comradery toward Trag even though we've never met face to face. I myself would therefore not categorize Trag as "a good old boy," which is most often taken to mean "an old standby who's been around in this forum for so long he's collecting dust." If you take a look at Trag's profile, you will see he is an "employed electrical engineer." You will also see that the bulk of his posts have been made in this "Compact Mac forum," and not in "the Lounge." He has a genuine love for old Macs that shows.

I can only therefore offer advice to slow down a bit, realize that 3 days is not an eternity, and get to know people here on a more personal basis; because genuine friendships can be helpful down the line. Giving back to the vintage computing community involves more than just awesome posts about a new mod you're conquering. Giving back also includes consideration of others and respectfulness, even in cases where we strongly disagree or in cases where we think we've already gone out of our way to be respectful enough to another person. (And as someone whose had run-ins and disagreements with mods on this forum before, I know full well how challenging that can be.)

No one is suggesting that people who are recapping SE/30 motherboards "must exclusively buy from Trag." Anyone who comes here has the freedom to buy from whoever they wish to buy from and share whatever experiences about their vintage Macs that they like. And so I will admit that it's interesting for me to read through this thread to see how people are doing it differently. I also found your other thread on an internal hard drive connection for a Mac plus to be an interesting read as well. Thank you. Nevertheless, with regard to recapping SE/30 motherboards, from my own experience anyway, it is a very cost-effective way and a simple solution to just buy the high quality caps in kit form from Trag. He is a knowledgeable man who has earned my respect.

Happy vintage Macing! :b&w:

 

[uniserver]

Thanks for the input,

You try to have your self a nice day.

 

[trag]

Also, I'v tried to buy stuff from you before and it was not a good experience,you took like 3 days to get back to me, i told you what i wanted to re-cap, you were not sure what i needed,

and so on..

So work some on your customer service.

I'm a real human. I sometimes don't check email over an entire weekend. I also some times actually go out of town.

As far as knowing what everyone needs, I don't have an example of every Mac on hand. If someone is going to recap their Mac, they're going to need to pull the logic board. Asking them to count the caps themselves, is hardly a hardship and will be a necessity. Additionally, we have seen logic board variations. Every SE/30 has had the same assortment of caps, but the IIci and the Classic II have shown variation. If the owner doesn't count the caps, he/she may not get the right ones.