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Ah, I think we're talking past each other. Chooser was not the issue. It was the Appletalk control panel. The machine is a 32 MB SE/30 running System 7.5.5. There are a number of things installed, but nothing network related.

Yes, you have me wondering as well. The info box reports that Open Transport is installed - would that make a difference?

Interesting. I'm using the same tun/tap setup and seeing no issues at all with Macs on the LT side. Everything shows up as expected on both sides of the router. The only difference is that I use the tashrouter to seed both ethernet and localtalk. I assume you edited the code to prevent seed...

Glad to be of help! TashTalk and TashRouter are essentially ready to become a replacement for obsolete LT-Ethernet hardware. To that end I'm working on a re-mix of one of the Pi Zero case designs with the proper cut out for the LocalTalk jack. Will post STLs here when it's done. It would be...

Yes, the SE/30 was on LocalTalk. And, yes, your suggested workaround above fixes the issue! Not only is it now showing the Zone, but the lookup runs about 10x faster. It used to pause for 5-10 seconds after the Appletalk control panel icon was selected - now it pops up instantly. The SE/30...

Here 'tis.

Everything is not only good, it's better! Netboot now works on the IIe. Happiness ensues... Last remaining nit: The SE/30 still insists < no zones available > Otherwise it's working fine. I can connect to the server and mount volumes. Do you want me to apply any of the patches you're...

No, I dropped that change on top of the repository head. No other changes.

And, survey says... 'destination_network=port.network' fixed the issue! Session just stayed up for over 15 minutes, which implies forever :) Thanks so much to @tashtari and @NJRoadfan for the assistance. On to the next issue: Netboot hangs, probably because the router isn't advertising the...

All I can tell you is what I'm observing. The IIe does get a zone name, but an SE/30 on the same LT network just calls out "unknown". If I switch the SE/30 to ethertalk it gets the zone without incident. The traces show a difference in behavior from the Gatorbox, specifying '*' as the zone...

I think I mentioned this already, but the Mac SE/30 does not report a zone when connecting through the tashrouter. Would this be why?

I outlined the test conditions previously, but it's strictly connect to the server as a named user (a2e) and list the directory of an AFP share.

I'll try the changes that @tashtari outlined above and see if it has any effect. UPDATE: I'm back. Neither of these changes made any difference to the session durability. Still goes down inside of a minute or two.

@NJRoadfan - Here is the same set of capture files, but from a Gatorbox session.

@NJRoadfan - Can you take a quick peek at these captures (Wireshark / Ethernet and Watcher / Localtalk) and let me know if the packets you need to see are there? This is for the problematic case of networking the IIe over tashrouter.

Thanks for confirming. I'll be more careful tomorrow.

I'll take another run at this tomorrow - thanks for looking at it! In the interim, can you try loading `a2e_tt_raw` from `a2e_tt.sit` above? I may have posted the wrong exported file in that first one.

Which exact file are you trying to load? I may have gotten things mixed up on my end.

I was worried about another Apple firmware issue that wasn't properly handling node 254 due to an off-by-one in the code. Just for fun I patched the constructor for LocalTalkPort() to use 151 - no joy. Still the same dropped session. I'll keep chipping away. Forgot to mention: An SE/30...

If you have a Mac System 7.x environment the Watcher utility can load the raw data I posted. Then you can filter and dive into each packet for a full decoding with payload. Otherwise, here are the very end of the traces. First is the Gatorbox (stable sessions): E 80 0.0000 lap dst 133 lap...