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  1. GreenBar0n

    Macintosh SE/30 M5119 - Restoration

    I had (4) broken traces on my UE10 ASC, including Pin 35 +5V, repaired and verified them all and still get no sound. Socketed UB10 and 11 and verified every connection, still no chime with speaker or Line out - running out of causes to troubleshoot. The new Se/30 will be here this Friday...
  2. GreenBar0n

    Macintosh SE/30 M5119 - Restoration

    I had heard that just one ROM connection missing will take down the entire system, but I was thinking the chime would still offer a diagnostics in such a scenario. Would you happen to remember how many of the pins or traces were not connecting properly from your ROM, in order to produce this...
  3. GreenBar0n

    Macintosh SE/30 M5119 - Restoration

    I should've said that I was testing the ROM slot by connecting the scope to the pins themselves, without the ROM in the slot - I'm seeing problems with the wave forms at the pins. Update: I found that UD8 is missing signals entirely, thanks to the Simasima Repair Guide. I've ordered (4) of...
  4. GreenBar0n

    Macintosh SE/30 M5119 - Restoration

    I have not tried to tighten the pins, I have wiggled the ROM in the slot and never get any change. Did you have a chime with loose pins, or ever get it to chime in that condition?
  5. GreenBar0n

    Macintosh SE/30 M5119 - Restoration

    Thanks for that! Y3 seemed good to me too, but I was having some strange clock signals and intermittency with the square waves in the ROM socket, which I'll need to identify where the problem is actually coming from. I bought another Se/30 that works that will be here late next week, hopefully...
  6. GreenBar0n

    Macintosh SE/30 replace processor MC68030RC16B to MC68030RC30C

    What's unpredictable are the components and traces that are rotted from electrolytic fluid and the corrosive vapors that accompany them, from the leaking caps found on an SE/30. Clock signals, Reset signals and voltages should all be repeatable from unit to unit, if there's nothing actually...
  7. GreenBar0n

    Macintosh SE/30 replace processor MC68030RC16B to MC68030RC30C

    Thanks! I have a brand new Reloaded V5 board here, I'm trying to figure out what components may have been affected by the cap leaking; this is why I am asking about Y3, it was very close to UE10 which has had all of the traces toned out and is confirmed to be working, yet still no chime. I have...
  8. GreenBar0n

    Macintosh SE/30 replace processor MC68030RC16B to MC68030RC30C

    I'm working from this guide step by step: https://tinkerdifferent.com/threads/macintosh-se-30-vertical-horizontal-bars-on-display-simasima-repair-guide.4705/ That's what I'm following and still have questions. I've done everything you've asked, UE10 Pin 14 is solid, yet I get no chime and...
  9. GreenBar0n

    Macintosh SE/30 replace processor MC68030RC16B to MC68030RC30C

    Yes, that's correct, Pin 14 is unaffected. UE10 Pin 24 and 25 are Xtal in and Xtal out, which are the legs of Y3 if you look at the schematic above. What does make a difference in the wave form, is the physical switch on the probe, with a setting of either 1x or 10x; thanks to JDW at...
  10. GreenBar0n

    Macintosh SE/30 replace processor MC68030RC16B to MC68030RC30C

    I am seeing the correct 15.667 MHz at UE10 Pin14. But at Y3, Pin 24 and 25, I'm only able to see Pin 24 has a wave form now, Pin 25 has no solid wave form and the speed is varying. Not sure why Y3 is behaving this way, this is backwards from yesterday, where I was seeing Pin 25 correctly and...
  11. GreenBar0n

    Macintosh SE/30 replace processor MC68030RC16B to MC68030RC30C

    Thank you so much for looking in to that, that gives me the confirmation I was hoping for. There seems to be other errors in the Guide, which I'm also very thankful for but I'd like to help them revise the errors to improve the accuracy for everyone using it, myself included :) Just a small...
  12. GreenBar0n

    Macintosh SE/30 replace processor MC68030RC16B to MC68030RC30C

    Thanks for the reply. I was able to get square waves on all of the ROM Address lines at this point, with the XC chip, it is walking the bus now but intermittently. It will need to be reset on occasion to get the square waves working. The speed values aren't lining up to the Simasima Repair...
  13. GreenBar0n

    Macintosh SE/30 replace processor MC68030RC16B to MC68030RC30C

    I do have a scope, it is showing me that the Address lines of the XC chip are missing between A2-A31, many of them. The most concerning thing at the moment is Xtal Y3, it was near UE10 that was damaged by a leaking cap and Y3 also looks to be damaged. Leg farthest from UE10 - normal: Leg...
  14. GreenBar0n

    Macintosh SE/30 M5119 - Restoration

    Found an issue with my Y3 Xtal, and was wondering if this is normal. On the Y1 Xtal I get a matching wave form on both legs with a clock of 32kHz: But on Y3, that is close to the UE10 chip that was corroded badly from the cap leak, I get a strange looking waveform on one of the legs: The...
  15. GreenBar0n

    Macintosh SE/30 replace processor MC68030RC16B to MC68030RC30C

    I got it: XC is not a guaranteed fail - that was mere speculation. Still don't know the difference between XC and MC, or why they changed over, but I'm no longer concerned with that at this point. I'm concerned about fixing the issue of the bus walk and the strange results. I found something...
  16. GreenBar0n

    Macintosh SE/30 replace processor MC68030RC16B to MC68030RC30C

    Am I still overthinking this, or is there another answer as to why my particular CPU is not 'walking the bus'?
  17. GreenBar0n

    Macintosh SE/30 replace processor MC68030RC16B to MC68030RC30C

    CayMac Vintage on Youtube has experienced a bad XC CPU, in a video of his about 7 months ago. Every board in this unit has been recapped. I included a link to a thread showing everything that's been done to it, above. The CPU is not walking the bus, I have a scope and am looking at every...
  18. GreenBar0n

    Macintosh SE/30 replace processor MC68030RC16B to MC68030RC30C

    I should have the new MC68030RC33B CPU shortly, I'll follow up when it arrives. If in fact my XC is bad, what would have killed it? Why would Apple switch to the MC68030RC16B, if the XC was good enough? What's the actual difference? Summary of troubleshooting and current issues with my SE/30...
  19. GreenBar0n

    Macintosh SE/30 replace processor MC68030RC16B to MC68030RC30C

    Thanks for the reply. On ebay there are a few loose SE/30 boards for sale, from 1987-1988, early SE/30's like mine, where the boards look new still but they all have the simasima pattern and they all have the XC68030RC16B CPU's. I am wondering if the XC, like you said, was an early chip that...
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