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yea good call re: matrox millenium 

trag: i just meant i hope u are wrong about the actual faultiness being on the part of ATI themselves.. and of it possibly being present in both the real mac cards + the flashed ones.. regardless of flashrom capacity or flashing  i hope the real mac edition magically works and that the problem...

trag: no offence but i hope u are wrong! ;) the only way to know for sure is for me to get my hands on a *real* offical mac edition 7000 or 7500 card!!! 

the gpus are also available on pci versions which would have been compatible with other machines running os8.6 - the info is out there - just have to dig for it - like i just did in the original post + have been doing this entire thread! i think its hilariously ironic that you would make such...

absolutely!! i agree its very uncommon!!!! the sawtooth g4 is one of the only ones that can do it. but i think there are TONS of sawtooths still around? because these machines DO NOT DIE! they even come back from the dead! lol (seriously i have seen it happen more than once!)  but regardless of...

the more i search the more apalled i am that this info is just not on the internet.. really? not archived anywhere at all? noone specifies which radeons or geforces if any at all are driver supported + 2d accellerated in mac os 8. surely graphics accelleration was a concern for people  i guess...

if anyone can link me with any past articles on this topic that would help me out alot for gpu benchmarking isnt it macbench that everyone used to use? check this out https://eshop.macsales.com/item/ATI%20Technologies/1028342302/ i noticed owc still sells the radeon 7500 AGP with ADC ...

im hoping someone with some vintage knowledge will show up ;)   arent there some older cards that provide really good 2d performance? anyone hard of an Image 128? https://www.cnet.com/products/imagine-128-mac-4mb-vram-mac-pci/ anyone heard of the proformance 3...

hmm i just realized the radeon 7500 agp  i posted above has ADC.. so it was probably BTO option for vgigabit ethernet G4's - i think they were the ones to introduce the ADC connection - They were released in July 2000.. but the radeon 7500 itself wasnt released untill July 2001 i think... so...

yep i bet theres still alot of macpros + q6600s doin heavy lifting in the shadows :) ive hear many stories of friends fixing up their mac pros to use newer cpus + newer graphic cards 11 years after the fact.. running latest mac os still.. not bad.. thats the type of bang for buck that the...

re: the small chip on my card. its so small i can hardl make out the characters i need to get a magnifying glass i could barely make out the numbers 512 about 3/4 of the way thru the sequence of letters  which would stand for 512Kbit i believe? if thats similar to the  pm39LV512 512Kbit chip...

hmm i disagree here.. im hoping you are wrong!!! because my 8500 + 9200 mac edition cards work fantastically on sttart up.. if i did a pram reset or nvram reset they immediately somehow snap the graphics up from 800x600 or something to a proper aspect ratio fit for my monitor type resolution...

when i say accelleration i mean mostly 2D + GUI accelleration..for working in apps... not 3d games;) ok its common knowledge for some time that the radeon 7000 is one of the best graphics cards for the b+w g3..... just resurrecting mine this last week, i had nothing but headaches with a radeon...

i still havent downgraded the machine  its not a main machine or anything obviously so im not in a rush i didnt know it was possible to do any of this originally it was only through communicating on the forum + googling that i (With the help of others here) figured this all out as a solution...

did i read the thread? did u? i was the original poster :) lol is EDO ram preferred for a 68k quadra 630? https://eshop.macsales.com/upgrades/apple-quadra-630/memory

cool score. theres one for sale near me on craigslist for 50 bucks.. let us know how u get on with it!

note to admin: 630 in 52xx is there anyway we can retitle this thread a bit more verbiose so that it can be found more easily? i was just looking for the thread for awhile because i was searching "performa" + "quadra" keyboards maybe adding the word "motherboard swap" aswell...

would the known lack of support for "handshaking" on the performa 5200CD's serial + printer ports stop OMS from detecting any MIDI Interfaces at all? im trying different serial cables now.. but i cant seem to get the 5200 to see my Studio 3 Opcode interface or my 64XTC either... i guess the...

is there any way to use a riser card to install more than one PDS card in the Performa 5200CD motherboard? 

is there alot of apps that were never ported to powerpc code? that are still used by 68k only cpus?