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  1. Verault

    Macintosh Classic stalls booting when anything is plugged into the SCSI bus

    I tried installing the 53C80-40 into the machine and again and the same thing. The machine just shows checkerboard. so the 53C80-40 is not compatible with the 53C80 that came in the classic. Im at a loss unless I can get a working 53C80.
  2. Verault

    Looking to replace my onboard SCSI chip and have a question.

    Makes sense from what I am seeing. I would say its compatible. So I dont know where to find a working 53C80 to fix my classic at this point and I am already out the cost of the 53C80-40 and no better off :(
  3. Verault

    Macintosh Classic stalls booting when anything is plugged into the SCSI bus

    So Going by your image I have traced continuity from pins 8 to11 and 17 to 19. Only one doesnt have continuity Pin 18 of the scsi chip should be going to pin 8 of the 680000 cpu. I am getting NO coninuity. Could you please check that your get it on your board? I am getting continuity from pin...
  4. Verault

    Looking to replace my onboard SCSI chip and have a question.

    Might not be compatible after all: https://68kmla.org/bb/index.php?threads/macintosh-classic-stalls-booting-when-anything-is-plugged-into-the-scsi-bus.39144/#post-423125
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    Macintosh Classic stalls booting when anything is plugged into the SCSI bus

    I figured the same on the voltages. Not low enough to be a problem. I opened another thread asking about the SCSI chip: https://68kmla.org/bb/index.php?threads/looking-to-replace-my-onboard-scsi-chip-and-have-a-question.39143/ I ordered the -40 variant and it came last night. I put it in today...
  6. Verault

    Macintosh Classic stalls booting when anything is plugged into the SCSI bus

    So I am getting 4.87 without a load and 4.83 with a load on the 5v rail and 11.66 without a load and 11.61 with a load on the 12v rail.
  7. Verault

    Macintosh Classic stalls booting when anything is plugged into the SCSI bus

    Just curious if there are any other components besides the SCSI chip which could be involved in this?
  8. Verault

    Macintosh Classic stalls booting when anything is plugged into the SCSI bus

    ok ill clean the contacts with some deoxit. i have a new scsi chip on order. the board was already clean when it was recspped but i can try cleabing the scsi connector better.
  9. Verault

    Macintosh Classic stalls booting when anything is plugged into the SCSI bus

    Just to be thorough here are all the voltages without and with a scsi device:
  10. Verault

    Macintosh Classic stalls booting when anything is plugged into the SCSI bus

    Ok Ill check the rest as well. Does it matter if I have a device connected or not?
  11. Verault

    Macintosh Classic stalls booting when anything is plugged into the SCSI bus

    Well I dont know what it could possibly be. Like I said this thing will just wait forever and thats not normal behavior
  12. Verault

    Macintosh Classic stalls booting when anything is plugged into the SCSI bus

    Ok here are the voltages. First I took them with no SCSI devices in the machines. PIN1 /REQ gave 0.11 VDC Pin 5 /ACK gave 0.18 VCD and pin 25 TRMPWR gave 4.5 VDC Next I tried an internal drive connected to the internal SCSI connector. With pin 1 /REQ I got 2.19 VDC with pin 5 /ACK I got 2.2...
  13. Verault

    Macintosh Classic stalls booting when anything is plugged into the SCSI bus

    Yes I am aware about the termination and there was termination set on the drives. I will post back with the pin voltages.
  14. Verault

    Macintosh Classic stalls booting when anything is plugged into the SCSI bus

    Thanks YMK I will test it tomorrow and report back what I find.
  15. Verault

    Macintosh Classic stalls booting when anything is plugged into the SCSI bus

    Two working hard drives, 6 working blue SCSI devices, and two working external SCSI2SD devices that all work fine on other system. Its definitely not the devices or the cables because they work on other machines. And I guess the more information the better right. This system was already...
  16. Verault

    Looking to replace my onboard SCSI chip and have a question.

    Thank you guys. I was pretty confident they were compatible I just wanted to hear from someone else.
  17. Verault

    Macintosh Classic stalls booting when anything is plugged into the SCSI bus

    I have a MAC classic board which will boot and work fine from a floppy drive but the second I connect a hard drive via internal ribbon or external connector the system just sits forever without progressing to even the floppy drive. The mouse cursor still works, its just perpetually waiting it...
  18. Verault

    Looking to replace my onboard SCSI chip and have a question.

    I am looking to replace my onboard SCSI chip on my Macintosh Classic board. The chip it came with is this one NCR 53C80 But when I look online all I can seem to find are NCR 53C80-40. What does the -40 specify? They both appear to be 44 pin IC's.
  19. Verault

    Apple III just lost the -5V rail completely, all other voltages fine

    I think the black thing at the top is just a cover that snaps on. Most IDC connectors dont come with those. Anyway I never had any luck making my own cables with IDC ends. The wires just dont stay put. That is why I assume the right tool for the job is needed.
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