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  1. tanaquil

    Early System Software versions

    On Taliesin/Mobile, see @Dog Cow's links in the first page of this thread. The forum posts cited as evidence are from Jan 87; those forum posts in turn refer to the 800K drive upgrade and/or the release of MacDraw, which I think would put the change somewhere in 1986 (or possibly late 1985), but...
  2. tanaquil

    Early System Software versions

    I love it! So many bits of Macintosh history one rarely sees.
  3. tanaquil

    Early System Software versions

    Won't someone (in 1984) think of the poor collectors? 
  4. tanaquil

    Early System Software versions

    You should totally look at your early system disks sometime when you have a few free minutes. They will most likely not be "virgin" (unaltered), but I have seen the most hilarious mish-mish of renamed apps (MacPaint is "9" on one of my disks), saved user files ("Panda" pict), and god knows what...
  5. tanaquil

    Early System Software versions

    Neat, thanks for the background on the 512Ke Tour disk. As it happens I already have a copy of this particular disk, but I am happy to see photos of whatever. Eventually I'd like to pull this stuff into a more comprehensive write-up of what early System disks looked like and what was on them...
  6. tanaquil

    Classic Mac icon collection

    Snagging! You can never have enough icons. Thanks!
  7. tanaquil

    Some questions about the IIsi

    Thanks, indeed! I have been using a IIsi for years and never once noticed that. Now I know.
  8. tanaquil

    Early System Software versions

    Nice sleuthing! I'll have to dig through my warren of system/app disks and see if the timeline matches up, but that certainly sounds like the horse's mouth.
  9. tanaquil

    Early System Software versions

    That's certainly possible - I never got as far as tracing the disk on which Taliesin was first renamed. Another stage of research!
  10. tanaquil

    Early System Software versions

    Not according to this source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fonts_on_Macintosh Cairo was there from very early on (it is trademarked to Susan Kare in 1984). Of course, Wikipedia is always subject to correction, but as I recall my research in contemporary books/magazines backed up this...
  11. tanaquil

    $4 Macintosh IIsi

    Congrats, nice find! My IIsi is the central workhorse of my vintage setup - it does most of the heavy lifting along with a MDD G4 for tasks that need to be done under Mac OS 9. I use System Picker to dual boot mine between versions of System 6 and System 7.1. It can run 7.5 too but I am at home...
  12. tanaquil

    Early System Software versions

    And here is my best guess at the font usage on early disks. (This is copied directly from a plain text file that I included on the page that I linked to in my OP.) Researched by Tanaquil March 2016 Standard fonts installed in System 1.0 Jan 84 * required for system Athens 18 *Chicago 12...
  13. tanaquil

    Early System Software versions

    I have that same Venice thing you’re talking about, and yes, I’m sure that is just a peculiarity of that particular widely shared image. Chicago/Geneva were the default on the original disks. (Chicago for menus, Geneva for icon names.) The google spreadsheet I linked to before has my best guess...
  14. tanaquil

    Early System Software versions

    I wish I could confirm the creation date for the copy of Finder 1.1h on my copy of 690-4002-B, but that file has a mangled creation date of 1904. The System file does have a May 2 creation date though, which seems to confirm what you're saying - that there was no content change between 5002B and...
  15. tanaquil

    Early System Software versions

    I'm curious about this as well. I have an original copy of 690-5002B (Label: A Guided Tour of Macintosh) and it seems to have Finder 1.1h as well. My disk is munged up, like so many of my early disks; it boots the 512K but throws an error about "missing needed files" if I try to run anything...
  16. tanaquil

    Early System Software versions

    For anyone else who might google this thread and is curious, here's a link to a (in-progress, incomplete) copy of a spreadsheet I've been tinkering with. It attempts to identify original creation dates and which items appeared on which disks. The information for 1985 is fairly secure, 1984 not...
  17. tanaquil

    Early System Software versions

    That would be absolutely lovely! I'll take this to email. (Still glad to have other input on this thread though.) I use a mixture of emulators (mostly just to quickly test or view the contents of an image on my modern MacBook Pro) and real hardware (having a non-updated 512K, albeit a weird one...
  18. tanaquil

    Early System Software versions

    Small update - I originally said disks before June 85 were a problem because I forgot that Rasmus' site also has unaltered Paint/Write disk images from April 85, so really it is everything before that (mostly 1984) that is problematic. Of course, the earliest of the earliest is the stuff I love...
  19. tanaquil

    Power Cords for early Macs (128K, 512K, 512Ke, Plus)

    I wonder if Apple itself was always perfectly consistent about shipping each system with a particular kind of cord. Since they were all interchangeable, it would have been awfully easy to use a spare one in a pinch. Or an otherwise scrupulously maintained machine might come home from a repair...
  20. tanaquil

    Power Cords for early Macs (128K, 512K, 512Ke, Plus)

    You're probably right about this. I found another angled plug cord, which until recently was plugged into a 512K that I got from its original owner (so, good chance it actually went with that machine). It had an Electricord plug that looks just like your "early" model, except where the apple is...
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