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14" AppleAudiovision

Tam 400

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This is a 14" Apple Autiovision display,Theres a ABD port-(keyboard)- on the side of the display.

That port had a picture of a Camera on it,an was for a Early Dig/cam,like a Quick take.You needed

a lot of cableing an Software to make it all work.Back in the day it was a lot of $$.Heres one i have.

hooked to a PowerBook Duo 23PDR_0024.movPDR_0027.JPGPDR_0028.JPGPDR_0030.JPGPDR_0031.JPG0 in its Dock.PDR_0032.JPGPDR_0014.JPGPDR_0015.JPGPDR_0018.JPG

 

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Macdrone

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I have the same monitor.  I have not looked it up but I think Bunsen is correct its just a seriel port.  It is a picture of a movie camera, but I would guess a Apple camera.  It was alot less cabling if used with the 6100, 7100 or 8100 series with the correct connector.  I do also have a cable for using it with other macs like your using it there but that was just a way to use it with all macs.

 

CelGen

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He's referring to the modified S-video jack on the side with three extra pins.

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Some sources say it was never supported, others say the port doesn't actually go directly to the monitor and instead back down the HDI-45 port to the computer and a waiting video input.

I've seen that plug before on the Quadra/Centris 660av and the Apple Video System card but never scoped out the extra pins (ground/Left/Right audio?). I can find zero documentation on this for everything which has the port.

 
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Macdrone

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Mine is covered by a rubber plug.  So I can understand if it was never supported or only supported By AV models with the correct port.

 
That port routes S-Video input down the monitor's HD AV cable and into any video-capable Macintosh equipped with an HD AV port. However, to my knowledge, no Macintosh was ever equipped with an HD AV port. The 660 and 840 av's don't have them, and I don't believe any of the later video-capable PowerMacs do either.  The 7500 certainly doesn't.

In order to use the AudioVison 14" with a Macintosh, an adapter is necessary to spilt the HD AV pins into standard Macintosh 15-pin video, 3.5mm audio, mic, and ADB.

 

Cory5412

Daring Pioneer of the Future
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The extra pins on Apple's S-Video input ports can be used to power cameras like the QuickTime Conferencing Camera 100.

I've also heard lots of conflicting reports about whether or not it does anything at all. If I had to guess, the cables are routed, but the Power Macintosh systems never implemented. I do know that the audiovision's adapter (to use it with the 68k Macs it actually shipped alongside) doesn't have it.

It may be usable on the 6100/7100/8100, but I should think you'd heard more about it if it was.

 
Actually, to correct what I said earlier, the 6100, 7100, and 8100 were equipped with the HD AV (HDI-45) connector and the AV versions of those models also supported video input. Whether they actually supported video input from the AudioVision's S-video port through that HDI-45 connector, I can't say, but would like to know.

 
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Tam 400

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Hi all New here so i didnt want to? over post.an This is a great site by the way,love it!

Back to this post,it was ?Kinda a set up, but the ports on the side is a Keyboard ADB 4 pin

and a direct AV/Serial for a Camera.it took me 7years to figger it out,with all the experts

that were around me at the time??No one had real answer.Serial 3 party Camera. Heres

a pic of-- Casio QV10-- Kodak DC50--Quick take 100/200-- i have found an tested all

of these cameras on this display,an yea man? what a pain with everything making it

all work,your right.I seen the picture of the display on the Cameras box an put 2n2

to gather.it worked.

PDR_0024 1.jpgPDR_0025 1.jpgPDR_0026 1.jpgKodak_DC50_front_large.jpgQV10.mov

 

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Cory5412

Daring Pioneer of the Future
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The port is not a Mac serial port, and it's not "for" that camera. That's just a lazy product shot showing a wire going somewhere near a "computer" to show that the camera is compatible with computers that look like that.

The Kodak DC50 et al use normal serial ports and will need to connect to a regular Mac serial port on the back of a system in order to transfer photos.

As said before, it's one of Apple's S-Video ports, but we don't know if it was ever actually connected to anything. It could well have been implemented on the monitor side but not on the system side -- even in the x100 Power Macintosh generation.

Apple had originally planned to make more than one AudioVision monitor, bringing big speakers to their 16-inch and possibly 21-inch tubes, and I'm sure that there were thoughts/plans for more than just one generation of computers that supported them.

If I had to guess: the concept died because nobody really wanted a $730 monitor when a $399 monitor and a $150 pair of speakers did everything relevant a little bit better. The 16-inch Macintosh Color Display also had an ADB "hub" if you needed or wanted that.

 

Tam 400

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I'll see if I can find the video of the set up,an post it,or set it all ,up an run through it all.I have an 8600/300 AV with a 1710 Apple Autiovision display,I use for All my Vintage Serial cams,The 1710 display is the big brother to the 14.

Cheers

 

Tam 400

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K i found it,Funny to watch my old movies,it was made in 03 and i use a Photoshop  plugin to talk the cam. ill load the movie up to the cloud an post it.

the video is not real good but you can see what is going on,heres a few screen shotsi .the display is a 1710AV Apple audiovision just like the 14 AV.same

ports,only the 1710 and the 750 are cabledi have 6 of them an use one quite often,on this 8600.

cheers

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Apple Vision 2.JPG

 

CelGen

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The Applevision 1710 is NOT the same as the the AudioVision. It's a separate series of monitor with no HDI-45 connectivity out of the box. Instead it has separate cables for video, audio, microphone and ADB. There are no S-video ports on it.

If you want to prove me wrong with a photo, by all means please do so (and I encourage it). My 1710AV at least does not appear to have any additional ports disregarding the 3.5mm jacks and ADB ports on either side.

 

Tam 400

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wasn't trying to p any one off, my apologies if I did,an I'm just posting the specs from Apple site,not some BS I wiped up? About Ithe 1710av.14"av-- what I should have said Was The 14" Appleaudiovision looks an works just like its big brother,They look similar an use the same Software. the way The ports are set up, are different,one has one big cable,-adaptor if needed- an the other 17" has multi cables.They both have head phones,keyboard An mic.The 14" has an extra port the 17 doesn't have,that's the whole point of my post.

Cheers guys

Apple Displays: AppleVision/ColorSync Series: AppleVision 1710AV Display Specs

AppleVision 1710AV Display

The AppleVision 1710AV Display, released in conjunction with the Power Macintosh 7200/75, Power Macintosh 7200/90, Power Macintosh 7500/100, and Power Macintosh 8500/120, features a color 17.0" (16.1" viewable area) Trinitron CRT (0.26 dot pitch), built-in

full-frequency speakers, internal microphone, headphone jack,wo ADB ports., and a video-in port.

Introduction Date: August 7, 1995 Discontinued Date: August 5, 1997

Display Type: Trinitron CRT Size (Viewable): 17.0" (16.1")

Max. Display Colors: 16.7 Million DPI: 50-102 1.

Brightness: N/A 2. Viewing Angle: N/A 2.

Contrast Ratio: N/A 2. Dot/Pixel Pitch: 0.26 mm

Display Cable: DB-15 Built-in Audio: Stereo Speakers, Mic

 

CelGen

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wasn't trying to p any one off, my apologies if I did
No offense taken. :)

I've found the posted specs on AppleFritter and product descriptions flying about often tend to include things that aren't correct. I don't know how they get there but the stuff gets posted and years later it's still not corrected.

 

NJRoadfan

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That S-Video port is a dead ringer for the one that is on my ATI XClaim VR 128 card that connects to an external breakout box. It supports S-Video, Composite, and audio input. It might also have a pin carrying power as my XClaim VR's breakout box had a video tuner in it. Also the manual notes that the Beige G3 Wings A/V card has the same "enhanced" 7-pin S-Video input jack.

No clue if the Apple monitor had power present or even shares the same pin out since it predates the G3 and ATI cards.

What ports did Apple's official HDI-45 breakout cable feature anyway? Any video input on the monitor would have required a DIY adapter to break out the video input lines as the x100 series PowerMacs didn't have any video input capabilities. The AV card sat in the PDS and did not have any provisions for interfacing with the onboard video's HDI-45 port.

 
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CelGen

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What ports did Apple's official HDI-45 breakout cable feature anyway?
All the monitor adapters I seen only broke out audio, mic, ADB and monitor video. Curiously there's S-video luma, chroma and shield mentioned on the HDI-45 pinout on pins 19, 20 and 21.

PowerMacs didn't have any video input capabilities.
the 6100 didn't, but later models like the7500,  8500 and 8600 did.

 

unity

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By far my favorite Apple display. While only 14", I loved it. Probably because of the audio. My first experience with these was with a 6100 in school. LOVED powering up those machines.

 
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