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    What FPS do you get in Quake on your machine?

    That's right! Unfortunately the Performa 630 (which was first to use the Valkyrie chip) must have come just a bit later than this release.
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    What FPS do you get in Quake on your machine?

    If you do get an HPV card for your 6100, I would be very curious to see how that changes things though! I see now there is an entry for the 7100 which is just like yours except it is 80mhz, and it got 13.5 fps which is more than expected (combination of both cpu and bus improved?), so Civic is...
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    What FPS do you get in Quake on your machine?

    Hey folks, I'm enjoying the discussion! Will add in some info here: The 6100 uses the Civic video card, which seems quite a bit faster than Valkyrie I, on Speedometer graphics 8bpp, the 6100 civic gets 1.7 while Performa 5300 with Valkyrie I gets 1.08 (and the 5200 gets 0.95)...
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    How did the PowerPC 603 / 5200 at 75mhz compare to PC:s (486/Pentium)?

    @Snial I realized this one has actually a table listing the distribution of instructions in the spec92 benchmark! And for fdivs, not a single one is used for the specint92, so the fact that fdivs stalls the integer unit for 18 cycles was never something that would have showed up by their...
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    How did the PowerPC 603 / 5200 at 75mhz compare to PC:s (486/Pentium)?

    I've been confused a lot, it is hard to find primary sources and even then, they sometimes contradict each other. Also when I've been writing micro bench code to test things, I've also confused myself to the wrong conclusion at times just because it is sometimes hard to pinpoint exactly why...
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    What FPS do you get in Quake on your machine?

    Oh that would be very interesting to see! The 6300/120 has the Valkyrie chip like the 5200/6200/5300, and it would be very interesting to see how much more FPS you would get with 120 mhz. The 5300 result (12.1 fps) showed that the 5200 (and likely 6200) is actually cpu bound (7.9 fps), which...
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    How did the PowerPC 603 / 5200 at 75mhz compare to PC:s (486/Pentium)?

    It has actually been quite a bit of research just to compare the 603 versus CPU:s from its timeline: 1994-1995 (and possibly 1993-1996) Starting from 6502 to Core 2 Duo would either not go very deep, or be quite an undertaking. Probably best to start another thread for some other "era" of...
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    How did the PowerPC 603 / 5200 at 75mhz compare to PC:s (486/Pentium)?

    It was a huge improvement over the 601 in terms of cost and energy efficiency. But in raw power per mhz it seems to do a bit worse than the 601. Example: 603 is 1.6M transistors, the 601 is 2.6M, Pentium is 3.3M, and the cost to produce scales roughly with that. The 603 can run in the 5200...
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    How did the PowerPC 603 / 5200 at 75mhz compare to PC:s (486/Pentium)?

    Many chips 1994/1995 had 8kb split. I don't think that was the issue. Both first two versions of the Pentium chip had split 8kb/8kb. If I had the choice for my programs, I would prefer 8kb split over 16kb unified. Unfortunately some article on low-end mac has convinced many that the 603 itself...
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    How did the PowerPC 603 / 5200 at 75mhz compare to PC:s (486/Pentium)?

    It is exactly the same chip! Although in comparison to the 68040, the 68040 would also stall? The 68k code *could* have been an explanation, I checked by entering MacsBug while it was running on Mac OS 7.5.1, and NQDMapRegion was active each time I entered and was in PPC code. So the...
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    How did the PowerPC 603 / 5200 at 75mhz compare to PC:s (486/Pentium)?

    True, although this is only when there are cache misses both in L1 *and* L2. So it will not be constantly bottlenecked by the memory bus, only occasionally (although when it does happen, it will be expensive!). The problem comes with cache inhibited data (like storing pixels to vram, or IO...
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    How did the PowerPC 603 / 5200 at 75mhz compare to PC:s (486/Pentium)?

    OK this was interesting... Quadra 630 beats my 5200 on speedometer 8 bit graphics! I ran the test several times, the 8-bit graphics is actually quite a bit faster in Mac OS 7.5.1. versus Mac OS 8.5.1 (but 16-bit is the same). https://lowendmac.com/benchmarks/q630.shtml Machine 8-bit graphics...
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    What FPS do you get in Quake on your machine?

    Sorry about the PSU fan, but good you found out before it was too late! Thanks for doing that, I added the numbers into the spreadsheet. It is actually *very* interesting to me that you can get such high fps with the video-chip as-is. I had a quick look in the developer notes of the...
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    What FPS do you get in Quake on your machine?

    Disabling the card, wouldn't that be exactly like running without it?
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    What FPS do you get in Quake on your machine?

    Very nice! Good to see that the civic video chip can push up to 39.8 fps, which is likely the bottleneck with the G3 in it. I hope we can get a 6100/66 to compare with and see how much that accelerator card is helping out on that same video chip.
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