godfatherq8 Posted April 19, 2019 Report Share Posted April 19, 2019 Hello any body have any Idea how to make SCSI to SD for my apple macintosh portable to connect it insted of the SCASI hard drive ??? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Trash80toHP_Mini Posted April 19, 2019 Report Share Posted April 19, 2019 There are threads in the Hacks Forum on building that cable and I think a PCB version might be available from a member? I took a look at doing a very simple IDC edge card to edge card adapter PCB (think old school PC FDD cables) that would be a stealth installation for adapter alone underneath the stock HDD replacement. There could be enough overhead in that cubic for a stealth installation of the entire SCSI2SD setup? IDC edge connectors are a bit shy of 1/2" thick if memory serves and definitely fit, but measuring the available height for comparison to SCSI2SD spec is easy enough. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bibilit Posted April 20, 2019 Report Share Posted April 20, 2019 Here it is. http://antinode.info/mac/port_scsi.html The cable is time consuming to built, but in a way better than the PCB. The PCB is bulky, and not easy to fit in the Portable case. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Trash80toHP_Mini Posted April 20, 2019 Report Share Posted April 20, 2019 (edited) mcd made the best looking cable I've ever seen: PCB approach is still better IMO. There's no reason it can't be designed for stealth installation in the cubic underneath the HDD. IIRC the pinout in at least one of my schematics or in this illustration of proposed PCB layout is in error: Molex outline is for reference/illustration clarity only. PCB's connection would be soldered, component and thruholes for the power cable connection of the real deal would be rearranged to keep PCB size to width of the 50 pin connector. The stealth version I proposed would have no headers or thruholes for them outside of a single RA pair for the SCSI Bus Power jumper circuit's cutout. Edgecard contacts for IDC-34 on right and IDC-50 on left with adapter PCB suspended in between for open air insulation. IIRC it just barely fits with the one overlapping ribbon cable Rotate PCB illustration 180 degrees: headers to Portable IDC ribbon cable connector on that side and RA header socket to 50 pin side. SSI2SD would plug directly into the adapter PCB with assembly hidden underneath the DOA OEM HDD. Alternately you could install a second FDHD in place of the HDD for a pop-top Portable Floppy duplication system. Printed FDD side panel optional. Full (overly confuzzled) thread here for reference: macintosh-portable-34-pin-to-50-pin-scsi-cable edit: I'd try to make the 34-pin ribbon cable connection to the mobo look exactly like the OEM cable up to the point it would be hidden from view by the HD. Ground connection traces omitted for simplification/clarity. Edited April 20, 2019 by Trash80toHP_Mini Quote Link to post Share on other sites
godfatherq8 Posted May 10, 2019 Author Report Share Posted May 10, 2019 On 4/19/2019 at 8:29 PM, Trash80toHP_Mini said: There are threads in the Hacks Forum on building that cable and I think a PCB version might be available from a member? I took a look at doing a very simple IDC edge card to edge card adapter PCB (think old school PC FDD cables) that would be a stealth installation for adapter alone underneath the stock HDD replacement. There could be enough overhead in that cubic for a stealth installation of the entire SCSI2SD setup? IDC edge connectors are a bit shy of 1/2" thick if memory serves and definitely fit, but measuring the available height for comparison to SCSI2SD spec is easy enough. thanks a lot for your response and help Quote Link to post Share on other sites
godfatherq8 Posted May 10, 2019 Author Report Share Posted May 10, 2019 On 4/20/2019 at 7:49 PM, Trash80toHP_Mini said: mcd made the best looking cable I've ever seen: PCB approach is still better IMO. There's no reason it can't be designed for stealth installation in the cubic underneath the HDD. IIRC the pinout in at least one of my schematics or in this illustration of proposed PCB layout is in error: Molex outline is for reference/illustration clarity only. PCB's connection would be soldered, component and thruholes for the power cable connection of the real deal would be rearranged to keep PCB size to width of the 50 pin connector. The stealth version I proposed would have no headers or thruholes for them outside of a single RA pair for the SCSI Bus Power jumper circuit's cutout. Edgecard contacts for IDC-34 on right and IDC-50 on left with adapter PCB suspended in between for open air insulation. IIRC it just barely fits with the one overlapping ribbon cable Rotate PCB illustration 180 degrees: headers to Portable IDC ribbon cable connector on that side and RA header socket to 50 pin side. SSI2SD would plug directly into the adapter PCB with assembly hidden underneath the DOA OEM HDD. Alternately you could install a second FDHD in place of the HDD for a pop-top Portable Floppy duplication system. Printed FDD side panel optional. Full (overly confuzzled) thread here for reference: macintosh-portable-34-pin-to-50-pin-scsi-cable edit: I'd try to make the 34-pin ribbon cable connection to the mobo look exactly like the OEM cable up to the point it would be hidden from view by the HD. Ground connection traces omitted for simplification/clarity. thank you very much Quote Link to post Share on other sites
godfatherq8 Posted May 21, 2019 Author Report Share Posted May 21, 2019 On 4/19/2019 at 8:29 PM, Trash80toHP_Mini said: There are threads in the Hacks Forum on building that cable and I think a PCB version might be available from a member? I took a look at doing a very simple IDC edge card to edge card adapter PCB (think old school PC FDD cables) that would be a stealth installation for adapter alone underneath the stock HDD replacement. There could be enough overhead in that cubic for a stealth installation of the entire SCSI2SD setup? IDC edge connectors are a bit shy of 1/2" thick if memory serves and definitely fit, but measuring the available height for comparison to SCSI2SD spec is easy enough. Hi thanks for your replay.I search and find a lot of SCSI 2 SD adapters do you know which one will work with the macintosh portable ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
godfatherq8 Posted May 21, 2019 Author Report Share Posted May 21, 2019 On 4/20/2019 at 7:49 PM, Trash80toHP_Mini said: mcd made the best looking cable I've ever seen: PCB approach is still better IMO. There's no reason it can't be designed for stealth installation in the cubic underneath the HDD. IIRC the pinout in at least one of my schematics or in this illustration of proposed PCB layout is in error: Molex outline is for reference/illustration clarity only. PCB's connection would be soldered, component and thruholes for the power cable connection of the real deal would be rearranged to keep PCB size to width of the 50 pin connector. The stealth version I proposed would have no headers or thruholes for them outside of a single RA pair for the SCSI Bus Power jumper circuit's cutout. Edgecard contacts for IDC-34 on right and IDC-50 on left with adapter PCB suspended in between for open air insulation. IIRC it just barely fits with the one overlapping ribbon cable Rotate PCB illustration 180 degrees: headers to Portable IDC ribbon cable connector on that side and RA header socket to 50 pin side. SSI2SD would plug directly into the adapter PCB with assembly hidden underneath the DOA OEM HDD. Alternately you could install a second FDHD in place of the HDD for a pop-top Portable Floppy duplication system. Printed FDD side panel optional. Full (overly confuzzled) thread here for reference: macintosh-portable-34-pin-to-50-pin-scsi-cable edit: I'd try to make the 34-pin ribbon cable connection to the mobo look exactly like the OEM cable up to the point it would be hidden from view by the HD. Ground connection traces omitted for simplification/clarity. Hi thanks for your replay.I search and find a lot of SCSI 2 SD adapters do you know which one will work with the macintosh portable ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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