Masquedefer Posted June 22, 2018 Report Share Posted June 22, 2018 Hi I have a lisa1. It has not been used since 1987. I am looking for advice on how to start it working and the best way to sell it. From memory it was upgraded to an x(l???) by the addition of an emulator. I read that there are less than 100 in the world. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gorgonops Posted June 22, 2018 Report Share Posted June 22, 2018 Moved to Lisa forum. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
68kMLA Supporter mactjaap Posted June 22, 2018 68kMLA Supporter Report Share Posted June 22, 2018 (edited) Aha. Moved to here! Edited June 22, 2018 by mactjaap Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gorgonops Posted June 22, 2018 Report Share Posted June 22, 2018 20 minutes ago, mactjaap said: Moved to Lisa Forum? This is the Lisa forum for 68kmla. What happend to this post. This was originally opened by the OP in the "General 68kmla News & Stuff" forum and moved *here*. My comment was simply noting that. (The report that was filed about this post was "new" when I did that.) We have actually had a minor rash of new members opening topics in that forum, presumably because it's at the top of the list. Please, people, actually look down the list of available forums and choose the right category before posting. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lisa2 Posted June 22, 2018 Report Share Posted June 22, 2018 (edited) 14 hours ago, Masquedefer said: I have a lisa1. It has not been used since 1987. I am looking for advice on how to start it working and the best way to sell it. From memory it was upgraded to an x(l???) by the addition of an emulator. I read that there are less than 100 in the world. It was upgraded?? Most Lisa 1's were upgraded to become Lisa 2's (MacXL's), this is what makes the ones that weren't upgraded rare and the ones that were upgraded not-so-rare. Does the system (or you) still have the 5 1/4" disk drives and faceplate? Was the battery removed? Photos would be a help. Rick Edited June 22, 2018 by lisa2 spelling Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Masquedefer Posted June 22, 2018 Author Report Share Posted June 22, 2018 Hello sorry if I misposted in the wrong place. I will take photos tomorrow and post them here wherever here is. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
68kMLA Supporter mactjaap Posted June 23, 2018 68kMLA Supporter Report Share Posted June 23, 2018 What a fascinating story. I think photo’s will make this story great! Most users here in this “Lisa section” of the 68kmla will have Lisa 2/5 or 2/10. But there will be few with a Lisa 1. No problem because together we can try to get your machine working. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Masquedefer Posted June 23, 2018 Author Report Share Posted June 23, 2018 Hi I've now unboxed the Lisa after more than 30 years in the garage. From memory it ran as a Lisa Then in about 1985 Mac works software Was installed to allow it to emulate a Macintosh. See attached photos. Do I switch it on? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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IlikeTech Posted June 23, 2018 Report Share Posted June 23, 2018 That’s a Lisa 2 or Mac XL Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lisa2 Posted June 23, 2018 Report Share Posted June 23, 2018 It's clear from the photo that the system was converted (upgraded) to be a Lisa 2 (this was very common at the time). Before you attempt to turn it on, open the back cover and see if the white battery pack in the lower right corner of the IO board (the large green PCB facing you with the cover off) is present and take some close up photos of the area. I fear that if it's been sitting in the box since 1987 you will have battery damage. Also, in your photo you have a Macintosh mouse and a Macintosh Plus keyboard in addition to the lisa keyboard and mouse. Rick Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Masquedefer Posted June 23, 2018 Author Report Share Posted June 23, 2018 Hi Lisa2 i've just taken a load of photographs and will send them individually just in case there is a limit on file sizes on this forum Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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jhorvath911 Posted June 23, 2018 Report Share Posted June 23, 2018 And that would be what you didn't want to see while opening it up. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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68kMLA Supporter mactjaap Posted June 23, 2018 68kMLA Supporter Report Share Posted June 23, 2018 Remove them. They are of no use and damaging your system. I’m afraid they already did. Read about what you can do about these problems on our forum. You are not the first! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MOS8_030 Posted June 23, 2018 Report Share Posted June 23, 2018 Ouch. Yeah, don't try to power on that Lisa! That system is going to require some serious cleaning and component replacement to make it work. The power supply for the Profile drive will probably need to be recapped as well. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lisa2 Posted June 23, 2018 Report Share Posted June 23, 2018 That is what I was afraid of. You have major damage to the IO and mother boards. At get this working again, you will need to replace (or repair) those boards and possibly the card cage pan. In reference to your original post, you do not have a Lisa 1 anymore, but a Lisa 2 that needs a lot work, but is still worth saving. Rick Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Masquedefer Posted June 23, 2018 Author Report Share Posted June 23, 2018 Hello Thank you everyone for taking the time and effort to give an opinion on the condition of my Lisa2. I am in the UK, do you know of anyone locally who could sort this out for me? I will trawl your forum posts too. Thank you once again Quote Link to post Share on other sites
falen5 Posted February 9, 2019 Report Share Posted February 9, 2019 How did you get on with the lisa - any update Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Masquedefer Posted February 9, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2019 Hi it is still in my cupboard. Apparently a Lisa 2 because it has the smaller floppy disk drive. It has Macworks software installed so emulates a Mac plus. Mould on pcbs so needs a good clean and circuit test before switching on. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
aladds Posted March 3, 2019 Report Share Posted March 3, 2019 On 6/23/2018 at 5:34 PM, Masquedefer said: Hello Thank you everyone for taking the time and effort to give an opinion on the condition of my Lisa2. I am in the UK, do you know of anyone locally who could sort this out for me? I will trawl your forum posts too. Thank you once again If you've still not had contact with someone to take a look at this, send me a PM. I'm based near London/Cambridge and would be happy to look at it more closely, but It's not looking good from the pictures. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
armadsen Posted March 13, 2019 Report Share Posted March 13, 2019 On 2/9/2019 at 11:14 AM, Masquedefer said: Hi it is still in my cupboard. Apparently a Lisa 2 because it has the smaller floppy disk drive. It has Macworks software installed so emulates a Mac plus. Mould on pcbs so needs a good clean and circuit test before switching on. That’s not mold, it’s corrosion and other byproducts of the leaking batteries. It can (possibly) be repaired, but will take a lot more than simple cleaning. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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