winterlight Posted May 12, 2017 Report Share Posted May 12, 2017 Hi guys, I just bought a DP 800 G4 and I want to replace the videocard. According to Wikipedia the DP800 can use a Geforce 3 (64MB) I do see the odd comment online about using higher spec videocards though (like an FX5500) I plan to use OS 9.2.2 on this machine and use it primarily for games. Anyone have any experience on maxing out a G4 with 9.2.2? Also, anyone know of any guides to flash a Geforce card to work with Macs? Thanks again ahead of time. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
68kMLA Supporter rsolberg Posted May 12, 2017 68kMLA Supporter Report Share Posted May 12, 2017 (edited) http://themacelite.wikidot.com/compatibility Is a useful resource for what you're looking to do. See footnote 5 for Mac OS 9 compatibility on the chart. There's a handy buying guide as well that will help you find a flashable card. In Nvidia's line up, the GeForce 4 Ti 4600 is the highest spec GPU that's compatible with your Mac and Mac OS 9. Edited May 12, 2017 by rsolberg Quote Link to post Share on other sites
omidimo Posted May 12, 2017 Report Share Posted May 12, 2017 I maxed out my MDD G4 with the Ti4600. If you are patient you can get one on eBay for around fifty-ish for the OEM model. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Unknown_K Posted May 12, 2017 Report Share Posted May 12, 2017 ATI Mac Radeon 9000's are more common and cheap if you want a fast OS 9 card. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
68kMLA Supporter Bolle Posted May 13, 2017 68kMLA Supporter Report Share Posted May 13, 2017 You can get your hands on PC GeForce 4 Ti 4600s pretty cheap. Most of them match the reference design which was used for the Apple OEM cards. Flashing those is easy. I have a flashed 4600 in my Sawtooth OS 9 setup and it is running great. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Unknown_K Posted May 13, 2017 Report Share Posted May 13, 2017 Yea, but the stock Radeon 9000's work with Apple monitors if that matters. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
winterlight Posted May 13, 2017 Author Report Share Posted May 13, 2017 Thx for the quick responses guys! Time to lurk on eBay^^ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bunnspecial Posted May 14, 2017 Report Share Posted May 14, 2017 Unless you are a GPU collector and/or want the best possible Apple card to fit in an unmodified Cube, the Geforce 3 isn't worth the trouble of finding. I hunted for one for a while(I fall into both of the mentioned categories ) and managed to get two within about two weeks of each other. I paid plenty, though. I agree that the 9000 is a good choice. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
omidimo Posted May 14, 2017 Report Share Posted May 14, 2017 Unless you are a GPU collector User -> Collector -> Hoarder -> Madman. The way of the GPU Warrior. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Themk Posted May 14, 2017 Report Share Posted May 14, 2017 (edited) I think I qualify as a collector, last I checked I have about 5 video cards laying around here. On topic, back when I had a Sawtooth, the ATi Radeon 9000 (I think it was a 9600 actually?) was AMAZING!!! I would highly recommend it Edited May 14, 2017 by Themk Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Unknown_K Posted May 14, 2017 Report Share Posted May 14, 2017 One of MMD has a modified 9600 from a G5 in it (the 24V tab doesn't line up so no ADC monitor) and you are stuck using OSX. The other 2 MDD have Apple stock 9000's in them. Have a few more 9000's in my QS I think. As far as being GPU collecting/hoarding, sure on the PC side (I have tubs of cards plus what is in use). Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Johnnya101 Posted May 20, 2017 Report Share Posted May 20, 2017 9000! Just keep in mind some stuff won't run, older games... I had trouble with marathon and nanosaur, they would crash and lockup everything. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
omidimo Posted May 20, 2017 Report Share Posted May 20, 2017 Marathon was from the System 7 days so the code might have problems with 9. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bunnspecial Posted June 16, 2017 Report Share Posted June 16, 2017 One of MMD has a modified 9600 from a G5 in it (the 24V tab doesn't line up so no ADC monitor) and you are stuck using OSX. The other 2 MDD have Apple stock 9000's in them. Have a few more 9000's in my QS I think. As far as being GPU collecting/hoarding, sure on the PC side (I have tubs of cards plus what is in use). There are ways to make ADC on a 9600 work on G4s(or at least 4x AGP). The only thing is that you lose the ability to power on the computer from the ADC power button. The trick is to cut three "fingers" off an old PC ISA card and then use two small jumpers to solder it to the ADC power tab on the 9600. The ISA fingers will then fit down in the ADC power slot on G4 boards. I ran a 23" Cinema from a 9600 in a Quicksilver using this set-up for close to two years-the only thing that changed was my upgrading it to a G5. The card I modified has now found a new home. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mode11 Posted August 27, 2017 Report Share Posted August 27, 2017 Why not get a Radeon 9800 pro? You can pick up PC ones for £10 on eBay, then flash them with a Mac ROM from the source mentioned above. Supported in OS 9 and by Quartz Extreme and Core Image in OS X. Faster than a 4600 Ti too, or at least comparable. The FX5500 256MB isn't too bad. The 9800 pro is faster for a tower, but the FX is a good choice for a Cube. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Unknown_K Posted August 28, 2017 Report Share Posted August 28, 2017 Since when is a 9800 supported in OS 9? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gorgonops Posted August 28, 2017 Report Share Posted August 28, 2017 I second that. So far as I'm aware Radeon support for OS 9 stops at the 9200. Later cards will "work" as dumb framebuffers but there's no accelerated support. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
68kMLA Supporter Bolle Posted August 29, 2017 68kMLA Supporter Report Share Posted August 29, 2017 (edited) I second that. So far as I'm aware Radeon support for OS 9 stops at the 9200. Later cards will "work" as dumb framebuffers but there's no accelerated support. The 9250 which basically is the same as the 9200 can be made to work as well in OS 9 with acceleration. But after that all cards will really be just framebuffers as already said. Edited August 29, 2017 by Bolle Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Unknown_K Posted August 29, 2017 Report Share Posted August 29, 2017 The 9250 and 9200 are just 9000 chips (9200 supports 8x AGP, 9250 is just a slightly lower clocked 9000). So using the 9000 driver will work just fine. Kind of weird how companies can take the same chip and slightly tweek it yet give it a whole different name/model (Nvidia 8800/9800/GTS250 series comes to mind). Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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