mraroid Posted March 25, 2016 Report Share Posted March 25, 2016 Hi... I am looking for a un stuffit, un zip, all in one utility that I can run in my CC II under 7.6.1. Any suggestions? Thanks! jack Quote Link to post Share on other sites
olePigeon Posted March 25, 2016 Report Share Posted March 25, 2016 Stuffit Expander 5.5 and DropStuff 5.5 with Expander Enhancer. Should handle stuffit & zip files. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rezwits Posted March 25, 2016 Report Share Posted March 25, 2016 (edited) Stuffit Deluxe 4.0 with 68k, Stuffit Deluxe 4.5 with PPC, have a copy of Expander 5.5 for your 68k to get thru the newer sits, and use Expander 6.0 for your ppc for the newer ones. I always use the older method to stuff myself. But bear in mind this is just preferences, but the 4.0 package is cleaner and most everything works unless you run into, newer archives, which if you use Magic Menu, it will just "wiff" and do nothing, but then you just drag to Expander! This is in my opinion the least buggy version and has the most features, you have to turn OFF SpaceSaver cause that will just chew up your processor. Edited March 25, 2016 by rezwits Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mraroid Posted March 26, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 26, 2016 Thanks everyone. I hope to install them today. jack Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mraroid Posted March 26, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 26, 2016 Well, here is the problem.... I can find the utilities. But they them selves are compressed or zipped. I can not extract them. I need a utility (unzip and or stuffit expander) that is not compressed that I can put on my color classic. Anyone know of a web site I can go to that has a couple of the tools that I can down load that do not need to be expanded? Thanks jack Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CelGen Posted March 26, 2016 Report Share Posted March 26, 2016 (edited) Ah yes, the famous Chicken-or-egg situation. For those times when a SEA file won't extract itself or because whoever uploaded it originally forgot that the reason you need a decompression utility is to decompress files. When in doubt, grab an OS 8 or OS 9 install disc and in the Internet folder there should be a copy of Stuffit Expander. You can use that to extract what you need. I keep a fat-trimmed copy of DropStuff and Stuffit Expander 4.x on an 800k floppy as to always avoid this scenario. Edited March 26, 2016 by CelGen Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mraroid Posted March 26, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 26, 2016 Thank you CelGen. I believe I have a CD of OS 8 and/or OS 9 kicking around here someplace. Time to dig them out! jack Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mraroid Posted March 27, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 27, 2016 Well, that did not work..... I was unable to find Stuffet expander on the OS8 CD. But I did find a version on the OS9 CD. The CC, running 7.6.1 was able to see all the files on the OS9 CD. I was able to move Stuffit Expander from the OS9 CD to my 7.6.1 desktop in the color classic. When I clicked on the installer, I received a error message that said "Error 192 - Stuffit Expander". I spent the morning surfing the web for a uncompressed version of a unzip program or a un compressed version of Stuffit expander. No luck. If I were not in Ecuador I would buy a copy on ebay or Amazon. But we have corrupt mail service here. I need to buy a copy when I can pay for it with pay pal and down load it.... Any suggestiuons? Thanks jack Quote Link to post Share on other sites
NiKaotix Posted March 27, 2016 Report Share Posted March 27, 2016 If you have a floppy drive, try extracting Stuffit in an emulator on to a 1.4mb disk image, and writing that image to an actual floppy - it should be usable in the Mac. Not copying the file in windows, but a direct disk image write or dd. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rezwits Posted March 28, 2016 Report Share Posted March 28, 2016 wait how are you able to connect to the internet? goto macgui.com and type expander. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Macdrone Posted March 28, 2016 Report Share Posted March 28, 2016 Stuffit expander will be in the internet files on the OS Cd's under the browsers. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mraroid Posted March 28, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 28, 2016 Macdrone.... Thanks for the help. I admit to not looking at all the files. I will look again in the files for the browser or internet stuff. I think the version of Stuffit on the OS 9 disk may be too new for 7.6.1. But I am not sure. I unstuffed it on a powerbook and tried to burn a HFS CD and move it over. But it did not work. I will look again on the OS 8 CD when I get home tonight. 7.6.1 will read the OS 8 CD as well as the OS 9 CD. jack Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mraroid Posted March 28, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 28, 2016 rezwits.... I have a G4 powerbook running Leopard. I use the powerbook to support my Color Classic. I just learned how to make CDs on the powerbook that the Color Classic will read. I am able to down load games and utilities on the powerbook. I can burn them to a CD. I can drop the CD into the CD drive of my Color Classic and move the files over to the Color Classic hard drive. But in a very strange move, all the unzip programs and all the unstuffit programs I have found are compressed. If I could find copies that are already un compressed, I could move forward. But as of a few days ago, I am stopped in my tracks. Maybe I have not looked in the right place. I should have bought this stuff from Amazon or ebay when I was still in the states. I am in a small town in Ecuador now. And for the most part, do not have snail mail. So I keep looking on line for someplace i can buy it and down load it. But so far, nada.... jack Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Paralel Posted March 29, 2016 Report Share Posted March 29, 2016 Error 192 means you are trying to run a PPC version of software on a 68k only machine. That means the version you are trying to run is too new. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mraroid Posted March 29, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 29, 2016 Thanks Paralel. This means that the unstuffit version I found on my OS 9 CD will not work on my CC. I am about to find the OS 8 CD and try to find a unstuff it version on that CD. jack Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CelGen Posted March 29, 2016 Report Share Posted March 29, 2016 Error 192 means you are trying to run a PPC version of software on a 68k only machine. That means the version you are trying to run is too new. D'oh! I totally forgot about 68K mode. Sorry about that mraroid. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Paralel Posted March 29, 2016 Report Share Posted March 29, 2016 (edited) The last version you can run, as mentioned above, on a 68k machine, is Stuffit Expander 5.5. If I can make you a Toast image with the files you need on it, will that work for you? Toast images should survive without compression or transcoding, so you should just be able to burn it so your 68k machine can read it. Edited March 29, 2016 by Paralel Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mraroid Posted March 29, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 29, 2016 I booted my OS 8 CD on a CD drive on my Color Classic. I could not find Stuffit expander on my Mac OS 8 CD any place. I will look again tonight, but I believe my OS 8 CD is OS 8, not OS 8.1. Paralel... Thanks for the suggestion. I will try to unstuff 5.5 on my powerbook, then burn it to a CD using Toast 5. something. I have not used Toast before. I will noodle around with it and see if I can figure it out. I can report back in the morning. Thanks for the tip! jack Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Paralel Posted March 29, 2016 Report Share Posted March 29, 2016 (edited) Here is a toast image of the 5.5 expander and the appropriate StuffIt Engine extension that needs to go into the Extensions folder in System https://drive.google.com/file/d/0ByPsWXkpeDUfYXRZeGZUaVdGMm8/view?usp=sharing You can mount the image using Toast or burn it. It was made with Toast 3.5.7. It isn't sensitive to transport, it should be able to transit a Modern Mac or even a PC system without any trouble. With the 5.5 expander and the Stuffit Engine extension you should be capable of unstuffing anything that is stuffed and intended for a 68k Mac. Edited March 29, 2016 by Paralel Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mraroid Posted March 31, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 31, 2016 Paralel... Wow! Thanks so much! I was able to down load this to my G4 powerbook (Leopard). I have never used Toast before. I noodled around with Toast, and not knowing if I did it correctly or not, burned a disk with the above file. I was quite surprised that my CC could read ther CD and import the file. It has all worked out quite well. I have been un stuffing programs like crazy! Now that I have Toast version 5.X.X working on my powerbook, I think I will look for a version of toast that will run under 7.6.1 on the CC. Is Toast 3.5.7 the last version of Toast I can run on my CC? Thanks again for your help! jack Ibarra Ecuador Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BadGoldEagle Posted March 31, 2016 Report Share Posted March 31, 2016 (edited) I am using Compact Pro on my SE/30. It has a nice feature called "auto-extractible image" that creates an image that does not require any software to extract it. No Disk Copy required. I have Compact Pro and Stuffit on my SheepShaver machine and a Unix folder on OSX (enables you to transfer files between OS9 and OSX). I simply drag and drop the file on Stuffit expander on SheepShaver, and then I create an auto-extractible image using Compact Pro. You can see the file on your OSX computer through the Unix folder (if you save the Compact Pro image on Unix that is) Then it's just a matter of transferring your new Compact Pro image to a floppy and then onto your Color Classic. (I'm assuming you know how to do that, but if you don't I can tell you how) That's my method, and it may not be the best one but it works. The Toast method is also good. Edited March 31, 2016 by BadGoldEagle Quote Link to post Share on other sites
olePigeon Posted March 31, 2016 Report Share Posted March 31, 2016 DiskCopy 6.3 can also make self-extracting images. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mraroid Posted March 31, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 31, 2016 I will look around for Compact Pro. Thanks for the tip. It took so long to uncompress my files, that I am going to stock up on tools to do so. jacj Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Paralel Posted April 1, 2016 Report Share Posted April 1, 2016 Glad to hear it worked out. The last version that would work on 7.6.1 on a CC is probably 4.1.3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mraroid Posted April 2, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 2, 2016 Now that I have the proper tools on my color classic, I have tried to un compress some files. I was successful with one fine only. It is a very early copy of Adobe reader. The other files I try to uncompress come out really bad. The "read me" and text files un compress just fine. But the rest are empty files with nothing in them. When I click on the files, I receive a message that says something to the effect "The software that created this file can not be found". This happens on almost all the files I try to uncompress. However I am having a different problem with some other, larger files. I down loaded several compressed files that are from the Berkley Macintosh Users Group. They are maybe 350 MBs or so each. Each file is a CD image I believe. My Color Classic II will start to uncompress them. It might get as far as 1/4 of the way. Then the Color Classic will stall out and freeze. Sometimes I have mouse movement, and sometimes not. I thought it might be a hard drive size issue or a memory issue. I have several partitions that are 1.9GBs large. I am running a SanDisk CF card for a hard drive. Before I try to uncompress the larger files, I reboot. I have 37MBs of memory in my Color Classic II. I did move the files over to the CC before i had installed Toast on my powerbook. Perhaps I should again burn a CD on my powerbook using Toast this time? I still have the compressed packages on the power book... Thoughts? jack Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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