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AAUI to Ethernet and System 7.6 - am I missing something?

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Hey all,

 

I've got an old Quadra 610 DOS Compatible that I just finished repairing (needed new caps and a hard drive), and I'm trying to at least get it talking to my network. It's got an Asante FriendlyNet AAUI adapter which is plugged up to a 10/100 switch and it does recognize it as a 10mbit device. I can't seem to get it to DHCP and I can't get it working with static addresses, so is there something wrong I'm doing? Everything I've read seems to suggest to plug things in and it will just work.

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This might be a stupid question, but have you followed all the steps listed here?

 

http://www.applefool.com/se30/

 

(hop down to "System 6 through Mac OS 9.2.2 Setup" if the part before is too technical, follow the steps appropriate for your OS)

 

I recently had to get my classic computers back online and I find this guide invaluable.

 

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On my Quadra 840AV i thought networking was broken on my logic board because it didn't seem to send anything through the AAUI adapter and I couldn't ping it even with a static IP, but it turned out I had to use the Appletalk control panel to switch appletalk over from the printer port to the ethernet port and then suddenly TCP/IP started working as well in MacOS 8.1.

 

No idea if that is a bug or limitation or what. I'm just happy it works now :) 

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Use of a "dumb hub" is generally recommended for IP networking on 68k era hardware. A surprising number of my stash of AAUI transceivers are also borked, so in my book, that's another thing to watch out for.

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If the switch recognizes it, I'm personally more inclined to believe it's a configuration error with the system than a physical connection problem.

 

I of course haven't used every transceiver but I've never seen one that isn't happy sitting on any random switch or router, even ones with gigabit ports. Most of what I've heard is that problems with anything other than 10mb hubs was something you got with some third party ethernet cards.

 

The weirdest thing in my experience is that the system normally doesn't ask for an IP address or even initialize TCP/IP networking until something needs it, so my recommendation is to make sure everything is set up and then open cyberdog or netscape or IE or whatever and try to get to a web site. at that point, it should try to request an IP and get running.

 

Another thing is, you may want to get the OpenTransport and AppleShare updates from http://main.system7today.com/updates/76x_68k.html - especially if you're connecting to more modern appleshare servers. (netatalk2, windows 2000/2003, etc)

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5 hours ago, Cory5412 said:

The weirdest thing in my experience is that the system normally doesn't ask for an IP address or even initialize TCP/IP networking until something needs it, so my recommendation is to make sure everything is set up and then open cyberdog or netscape or IE or whatever and try to get to a web site. at that point, it should try to request an IP and get running.

 

You can set TCP/IP to be always on if you switch to advanced settings in the control panel. That way it will start a DHCP request right away.

This is the first thing I always turn on when I set up a new machine... jumped through that hoop one time too many.

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