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I recently got a Quadra 700. It has some weird accelerator card with wires which I don't know what to connect to. This Quadra won't start up the way it is. The LED comes on and the fan whirrs but nothing else. I would have tried to use it without the card in, but I can't get it out. Where do I connect these wires to?

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I have an accelerator for my 700 that is a bit different from that one, but it also has a card that fits the ROM slot. The ROM slot works like a DIMM slot. You have to pull the metal clips on the ends back and tilt the board to a 45 degree angle to get it out.

 

I have the same type of wires. One of them hooks around a leg of the oscillator and another clips onto a resistor near the CPU socket. I think you may have the same one I do, the Newertech PowerPump, maybe an earlier or later revision because your ROM board looks a little different from mine.

 

I don't use mine as an accelerator, though. I rehoused my 700 into a IIvx case and the ROM card sticks up too high to fit under the drive tray. I left the fans installed, though as additional cooling, which was really what I bought it for because I have a 601 card that had a heat problem when I first bought it.

 

I don't understand how this accelerator could possibly work reliably because I never was able to get mine to work. One or both of the wires kept removing itself from where it was supposed to be. The one that clips to the resistor is especially bad. The slightest vibration makes it fall off.

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Those clock chipping kits tend to cause all sorts of problems for Macs these days. I'd say its probably just the hardware getting old. :(

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There must have been a Power Mac Card in here before because the control panel for one is there.

 

The Q700 has System 7.5.1, Lotus 1-2-3, Word 5.1a, and Norton Utilities 3.0 (with the Norton emergency disk in the floppy drive!) It even has some person's old documents.

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I looove reading old documents :) Nit to be nosy, or idiotic, just because when I had my first used computer, a 486 laptop, it came from a Murphy Brown writer. It had a lot of funny things on it...Unfortunetly I kinda killed that lappy& HD...

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If that accelerator is just for clock-chipping, it seems so complicated!

 

These days, with the 68k Mac hobby so small, it seems so easy to say "If you can't solder, you can't overclock" but back then, I guess it was easier for mainstream users to install that than resolder the crystal.

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It came with Hypercard stacks about the human anatomy. It also has a document called "karen's resume" and "thesis". It even has a System Sound of, "Space…the final frontier" Whoever owned this mac messed with the System folder too much. I'm reinstalling the system right now. I won't be able to use the copy of NOW Utillities since that was in the System folder. I think that vital parts of Norton may have been in there too… But it doesn't matter because I still get MS Works, MS Work 5.1a, and Lotus 1-2-3. It has an hp branded HD inside of it. It seems to be a bit unstable so I will be making backups. It replaces the spot on my desk previously occupied my my LC III. The LC III is moving to the basement to resume it's life as a Windows 3.1 emulator with softwindows and expected to be set up as a print server with a Laserwriter sometime.

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It came with Hypercard stacks about the human anatomy. It also has a document called "karen's resume" and "thesis". It even has a System Sound of, "Space…the final frontier" Whoever owned this mac messed with the System folder too much. I'm reinstalling the system right now. I won't be able to use the copy of NOW Utillities since that was in the System folder. I think that vital parts of Norton may have been in there too… But it doesn't matter because I still get MS Works, MS Work 5.1a, and Lotus 1-2-3. It has an hp branded HD inside of it. It seems to be a bit unstable so I will be making backups. It replaces the spot on my desk previously occupied my my LC III. The LC III is moving to the basement to resume it's life as a Windows 3.1 emulator with softwindows and expected to be set up as a print server with a Laserwriter sometime.

 

Heh, I discovered my 9500 sounds the red alert warning klaxon from the original Star Trek whenever it encounters an error or something that needs attention.

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I just installed Mac OS 8.1! But there's one problem…The monitor & sound control panel just hangs when I try to open it! Everything BUT that works great. It somehow changed into B&W mode at some point so now I'm stuck in B&W! It's disgusting-looking. How can I get the control panel to open?

 

(I have 20mb of RAM so I have enough of that)

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Imagine how scary that would be...someone reading your old files ands tuff. :O

 

I'm sorry...i just consider it to be unethical, thats all. All HDs i get, after i get any useful software off 'em are formatted.

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But is it possible to get color back on my Q700? :'(

As a last resort you could maybe set the resolution you want on another machine running exactly the same OS and copy the display preferences file over.

 

 

Imagine how scary that would be...someone reading your old files ands tuff. :O

 

I'm sorry...i just consider it to be unethical, thats all. All HDs i get, after i get any useful software off 'em are formatted.

I kind of think it's their own lookout though - if you left a file of documents in a street or gave them to someone else, then you'd expect that they might get read by someone, no? It's really just common sense to delete anything that you consider to be private before letting someone else have your old computer.

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Yeah...i see your point, but i still think its unethical to read someone else's documents without their permission. Look at it this way...lets pretend you don't own a car, but you see one sitting in the street unattended with the driver's door open, the windows down, the key in the ignition, and the engine running. Would you drive off in it "just because its common sense to not do that"?

 

Btw, MacTCP, maybe you could enable the control strip and try changing the bit depth that way...unless someone's mucked about with the contents of the Control Strip Modules folder, there should be two modules for graphics settings: one for changing colour depth, another for resolution

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The control strip doesn't work with Q700s. I tried to install ColorSwitch Pro, but it made it freeze when the startup got to that extension. It's so weird! I

t's like it doesn't want me to use color or something.

 

I'm going to install 7.5, switch the colors, and upgrade to 8.1. If 8.1 switches it back to B&W, I'm deleting it and running 7.5.

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I just installed Mac OS 8.1! But there's one problem…The monitor & sound control panel just hangs when I try to open it! Everything BUT that works great. It somehow changed into B&W mode at some point so now I'm stuck in B&W! It's disgusting-looking. How can I get the control panel to open?

 

(I have 20mb of RAM so I have enough of that)

 

I think monitor and sound is a PPC control panel. It was probably installed when there was a PPC card in the machine. You will need a system 8 disc and install the 68k control panels. You probably are going to find other PPC specific bits installed on your system, as well.

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The control strip doesn't work with Q700s.

 

Who said that? The control strip works on any Mac running 7.5 or later. Although Apple used to say its a PowerBook-only feature, it'll work on any Mac...i've used it on a Q700 (mine), a C650 (not mine), all the LCs (mostly mine), several Power Macs (mostly not mine), Performas (mostly not mine), and other non-PowerBook Macs, and i've never had a problem with it.

 

Btw Quadraman, in System 7.6 -> 8.1, Monitors and Sound will work on most 68k's.

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I did a clean reinstall of 8 when I installed it. (which the monitors & sound control panel was installed with so it should work) Control Strip wasn't installed by default. I copied all control strip related files over from my 4400 running the exact same system to the Q700. I opened it after putting the files in their places and restarted. When I opened it it said, "This isn't compatible with your macintosh" or something like that. I don't see how the control strip should have any hardware requirements. I also tried resetting the PRAM which didn't work.

 

System 7.5 is installing right now. I'll see if I can get color with that. ;D

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When the control strip was first released with 7.5, although it would work with any Mac if you installed it, it was intended as a PowerBook only feature, and was only installed automatically if you were on a PowerBook. Maybe the 4400 had a PowerPC only version of it or something...who knows. Apple did weird things sometimes.

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Apple did weird things sometimes.

 

Especially with the 4400. I think it is very fast, but the case is so hard to get back together. You get one side on and the other pops off.

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7.5 is installed…with color! I backed up the System folder and unblessed it. Now I'm going to try and give 8.1 one more chance. If I am not satisfied with 8.1, then I'll try 7.6. If 7.6 starts messing up, I'll run 7.5.

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7.6 is just as bad as 8. I'm sticking with the stabe 7.5. I guess when the 7.5 installer said it was making my macintosh happy, it really was!

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