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#1 samurai-j

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Posted 22 May 2017 - 11:59 AM

My IIfx did not start.
It starts with a jump start.
TOKAMAC IIfx will start for the first time in about 10 years.
IIfx's only PDS 68040 accelerator has worked!
 
Since the HDD is in a bad condition,
I will exchange it for CF or SD card drive.
Which is CF or SD recommended?
I plan to repair IIfx slowly.
 
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Edited by samurai-j, 22 May 2017 - 12:20 PM.

SE:TransWarp 030/25, IIcx:socket type cpu + DayStar Turbo 040/33, IIci:Tokamac Ilci 040/25/33,

IIfx:Tokamac IIfx 040/33, IIfx:Nexus fx 030/55 [I need TransWarp040 NuBus driver software]  G4Cube, iMac Late 2006, iMac Retina 5K.


#2 joethezombie

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Posted 22 May 2017 - 01:25 PM

tokamak! amazing, first one i've seen running. that is a rare beast. probably the only upgrade that warrants a l@@k RARE!!! badge.

Apple: ][+, //c, IIgs, Macintosh, SE, SE/30, IIfx, IIsi, Q700, Color Classic + //e, MacTV, 6100 DOS, 8100/110, ANS700/200, G3 AiO, G4 DP500, PowerBook G4
Commodore: 64C, 128D, Amiga 500, Amiga 3000


#3 Themk

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  • 68000
  • LocationU.S.A.

Posted 22 May 2017 - 02:17 PM

Oh my! Nice IIfx, System 6 just has to FLY!!!!

So, how many IIfx systems do you have? I can't tell from your post if you have 1 or 2.

I like SCSI2SD for Hard Drive replacement.

Edited by Themk, 22 May 2017 - 02:17 PM.

Macintosh SE SuperDrive, Macintosh SE/30, Apple IIgs ROM3, ImageWriterBanger II.

Currently building the amazing 68040! Performa (Quadra??!!) 638CD gets 40MHz full '040 [;)] , Ethernet, 136MB RAM, AV input card, and maybe something else. Should have performance comparable to the Quadra 840av when done! (A/UX doesn't work, but I still like this little guy right here: [:P] )


#4 omidimo

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  • 6502
  • LocationPrinceton, NJ

Posted 22 May 2017 - 06:23 PM

As stated above SCSI2SD v5 is the way to go. If you want a reliable microSD card for long term use, then get a Panasonic SLC industrial model, they are the best I found.


So many Mac to collect, so little shelf and/or storage space!

On the lookout for more Mac towers. 


#5 Themk

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  • 68000
  • LocationU.S.A.

Posted 22 May 2017 - 06:31 PM

I can agree with omidimo. I have used Panasonic's industrial SD cards many times, simply amazing! With SD cards there many different grades of flash memory quality. I'm not talking about speed, I'm more talking about program erase cycles. Get a good SD card, do not cheap out.

Macintosh SE SuperDrive, Macintosh SE/30, Apple IIgs ROM3, ImageWriterBanger II.

Currently building the amazing 68040! Performa (Quadra??!!) 638CD gets 40MHz full '040 [;)] , Ethernet, 136MB RAM, AV input card, and maybe something else. Should have performance comparable to the Quadra 840av when done! (A/UX doesn't work, but I still like this little guy right here: [:P] )


#6 olePigeon

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  • 68LC040

Posted 22 May 2017 - 09:57 PM

:O That's the holy grail of 68k Macs in my opinion.  An actual working Tokamac.  Incredible.

 

If you ever get tired of it, let me know. :)


Edited by olePigeon, 22 May 2017 - 09:57 PM.


#7 Unknown_K

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  • 68LC040
  • LocationOhio/USA

Posted 23 May 2017 - 04:32 AM

I need the modified code for PAL UK7 for mine to work. :sad:
Favorites: big box Mac IIs, 950, 800's
Wanted: Anything Nubus, Video capture and editing hardware and software for 68k mac. Original software including A/UX.
Looking for 9150, Mac II, Color classic, 840av motherboard, and Nubus cards.

#8 samurai-j

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Posted 23 May 2017 - 11:39 AM

Thank you all for your various opinions

 
I will change the drive to SD type.
Card will buy the industry type.
 
for Themk
I have not tried system 6x + Tokamac.
According to the manual, it seems that it can operate also on System 6x.
System 7.6.1 + Tokamac, the operation was possible.
OS is not a problem because some have.
 
for Unknown_K
I can not copy PAL of UK 7 on my own.
There is no choice but to ask a Professional company for this.

SE:TransWarp 030/25, IIcx:socket type cpu + DayStar Turbo 040/33, IIci:Tokamac Ilci 040/25/33,

IIfx:Tokamac IIfx 040/33, IIfx:Nexus fx 030/55 [I need TransWarp040 NuBus driver software]  G4Cube, iMac Late 2006, iMac Retina 5K.


#9 olePigeon

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Posted 23 May 2017 - 03:31 PM

Can you post pictures of the inside of the machine?  I've never seen a Tokamac installed.



#10 samurai-j

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Posted 24 May 2017 - 04:00 AM

Can you post pictures of the inside of the machine?  I've never seen a Tokamac installed.

 

Tokamac is inside IIfx, like this.

 

 

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SE:TransWarp 030/25, IIcx:socket type cpu + DayStar Turbo 040/33, IIci:Tokamac Ilci 040/25/33,

IIfx:Tokamac IIfx 040/33, IIfx:Nexus fx 030/55 [I need TransWarp040 NuBus driver software]  G4Cube, iMac Late 2006, iMac Retina 5K.


#11 Unknown_K

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  • LocationOhio/USA

Posted 24 May 2017 - 05:29 AM

Nice pictures.

You UK7 programmable chip is socketed located directly north of the 68030 FPU. The normal IIfx one is surface mounted like the chip next to it.

Can you read the top of the chip to see what brand and model it is?

A dozen years ago I contacted one of the owners of Tokamac who did the reworks and he could not find his programming file for that chip (he did send me the control software). Apparently Apple screwed up their bus mastering on the IIfx and each Tokamac card installed needed that chip reprogrammed.

I am hoping a cheap USB eprom programmer (or something like it) can read that chip so the contents can be saved (and I can rework my machine).
Favorites: big box Mac IIs, 950, 800's
Wanted: Anything Nubus, Video capture and editing hardware and software for 68k mac. Original software including A/UX.
Looking for 9150, Mac II, Color classic, 840av motherboard, and Nubus cards.

#12 samurai-j

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  • 6502

Posted 24 May 2017 - 06:39 AM

Nice pictures.

You UK7 programmable chip is socketed located directly north of the 68030 FPU. The normal IIfx one is surface mounted like the chip next to it.

Can you read the top of the chip to see what brand and model it is?

A dozen years ago I contacted one of the owners of Tokamac who did the reworks and he could not find his programming file for that chip (he did send me the control software). Apparently Apple screwed up their bus mastering on the IIfx and each Tokamac card installed needed that chip reprogrammed.

I am hoping a cheap USB eprom programmer (or something like it) can read that chip so the contents can be saved (and I can rework my machine).

 

Yes, UK 7 is right.

 

UK7
GAL16V8B
 
In the Tokamac IIfx manual,
There is a bug on the Apple side, it is written that it is PAL to fix the bug.
 
When you built a PAL program yourself,
Please also send me a program file.
I also want to keep a backup of the PAL program file.
Since it is a desperate number of Tokamac IIfx cards,
Please take care of Unknown_K 's own card.
 
By the way, I am not good at English.
Easy sentences like children are easy to convey to me.

SE:TransWarp 030/25, IIcx:socket type cpu + DayStar Turbo 040/33, IIci:Tokamac Ilci 040/25/33,

IIfx:Tokamac IIfx 040/33, IIfx:Nexus fx 030/55 [I need TransWarp040 NuBus driver software]  G4Cube, iMac Late 2006, iMac Retina 5K.


#13 Unknown_K

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  • LocationOhio/USA

Posted 24 May 2017 - 08:09 AM

I don't have the program file. I am Looking in to a way for you to copy it from your chip if possible.
Favorites: big box Mac IIs, 950, 800's
Wanted: Anything Nubus, Video capture and editing hardware and software for 68k mac. Original software including A/UX.
Looking for 9150, Mac II, Color classic, 840av motherboard, and Nubus cards.

#14 Unknown_K

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  • 68LC040
  • LocationOhio/USA

Posted 24 May 2017 - 08:11 AM

Also can you make a PDF of the manual?
Favorites: big box Mac IIs, 950, 800's
Wanted: Anything Nubus, Video capture and editing hardware and software for 68k mac. Original software including A/UX.
Looking for 9150, Mac II, Color classic, 840av motherboard, and Nubus cards.

#15 samurai-j

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  • 6502

Posted 24 May 2017 - 03:12 PM

I have to repair IIfx first.

 

The manual is not original, it is a copy.

Important things about PAL are not written.
 
Since there is no time,
PDF conversion of all pages is currently impossible.
I shot the page only for PAL.
Extra pictures of the second piece :)
 
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SE:TransWarp 030/25, IIcx:socket type cpu + DayStar Turbo 040/33, IIci:Tokamac Ilci 040/25/33,

IIfx:Tokamac IIfx 040/33, IIfx:Nexus fx 030/55 [I need TransWarp040 NuBus driver software]  G4Cube, iMac Late 2006, iMac Retina 5K.


#16 olePigeon

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Posted 24 May 2017 - 04:35 PM

Very cool.  The PAL might be useful for people other than TokaMac owners.  Unlikely, but maybe a homebrew IIfx Daystar adapter.



#17 olePigeon

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  • 68LC040

Posted 24 May 2017 - 04:36 PM

I just noticed you have a Tokamac for the IIci?  Is it similar to the Daystar?  Just plugs into the PDS slot?



#18 samurai-j

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  • 6502

Posted 25 May 2017 - 10:17 AM

I just noticed you have a Tokamac for the IIci?  Is it similar to the Daystar?  Just plugs into the PDS slot?

 

 

Daystar's adapter and PAL,

I do not know how it is involved. I'm sorry.
 
There are two kinds of Tokamac for IIci.
25 MHz is for photograph.
33 MHz is the same product as Presto 040 manufactured by Sonnet Technologies,
There is no performance difference from Daystar Turbo 040.
 
PAL is not necessary, both connect to the PDS.
 
up162581.jpg

SE:TransWarp 030/25, IIcx:socket type cpu + DayStar Turbo 040/33, IIci:Tokamac Ilci 040/25/33,

IIfx:Tokamac IIfx 040/33, IIfx:Nexus fx 030/55 [I need TransWarp040 NuBus driver software]  G4Cube, iMac Late 2006, iMac Retina 5K.


#19 olePigeon

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  • 68LC040

Posted 25 May 2017 - 04:43 PM

Wow!  Box, manual, and stickers, too!  You certainly are lucky.  Congrats!

 

If you find anymore, let me know. :)



#20 Themk

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  • 68000
  • LocationU.S.A.

Posted 26 May 2017 - 12:14 AM

for Themk
I have not tried system 6x + Tokamac.
According to the manual, it seems that it can operate also on System 6x.
System 7.6.1 + Tokamac, the operation was possible.
OS is not a problem because some have.


Ahh, very cool! System 7.6.1 is a good choice for a IIfx, but with System 6 that would have been one super powerful mac!

Congratulations on all of the cool stuff you have!


Edited by Themk, 26 May 2017 - 12:15 AM.

Macintosh SE SuperDrive, Macintosh SE/30, Apple IIgs ROM3, ImageWriterBanger II.

Currently building the amazing 68040! Performa (Quadra??!!) 638CD gets 40MHz full '040 [;)] , Ethernet, 136MB RAM, AV input card, and maybe something else. Should have performance comparable to the Quadra 840av when done! (A/UX doesn't work, but I still like this little guy right here: [:P] )





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