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Anybody bother collecting G4/G5 Xserves?

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LOL! I haven't checked (fiduciary discretion re the 68k collection's needs) but if the early G4 ran a version of X that supported Faux9 and had center mounts for my TelCo rack I'd be all over one. I miss using the QS'02 under the desk to keep my own feets warm in the winter. I still run slide shows on it to keep it awake and running as a white noise generator/space heater unit overnight in the bedroom. Working on setting the MDD'03 Native9 special edition as an eventual replacement for more efficient production of noise and heat.

 

An X-Serve in that role would be beyond cool! :lol:

 

The X-serves are designed for 19" Telco racks, although they are quite long. I think the G5 is about 3 feet. Mine came with the unused mounting kit with hardware for both 2 post and 4 post racks.

 

The unfortunate thing is that all I can really fit at home are shorty 2 post racks. I'd like to build up a couple of units with an Xserve and an Xserve RAID on 2-post racks, but Apple says not to put the RAID in a two post. Given that my two post racks have a fairly low COG, I could probably get away with mounting a RAID at the very bottom so that they would rest on the base.

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Dang, I didn't really wanna know that! I thought I was safe when you said they were a yard deep, but just checked and everymac has them pegged at 28" deep, which is marginally doable in the full height bedroom AV Rack.

 

Big question: will any of them run Tiger/Faux9?

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Remember that Tiger was the last shipping OS of the PPC era.

 

My boxed Xserve G5 had a separate retail boxed set of Tiger install CDs in the box. Interestingly enough, it came with CDs because Xserves shipped with a CD-RW drive-I upgraded mine to a SuperDrive robbed from a PowerBook. I did my last install via TDM on a PowerBook, though, since it saved me having to put in a video card and hook up a monitor/keyboard/mouse. BTW, Apple-in their infinite wisdom-only saw it fit to put USB ports on the back, so you can imagine that working with a KB and mouse plugged directly into one is a bit awkward.

 

All of that aside, I think that the G5 shipped with Panther server originally, and the G4 may have gone back to Jaguar server-just don't quote me on that. Tiger is no issue on either system. My G5 runs Leopard quite well, and all G4 Xserves exceed the minimum required specs for Leopard.

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ooooooh! NOW me wanty, but it's a silly thing to actually do. :-/

 

I'm trying to curb spending money on eBay before unloading some old goodies to pay for the new goodies.Sometimes this quandary makes me feel like Sisyphus rolling a stone back and forth OVER my bank account. ::)

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The first models of XServe shipped with OS X Server 10.2.whatever, so you could run retail Panther or Panther Server on them.

 

EveryMac will list every model of XServe and what the min and max OS for them are. In general, the minimum OS will only be achieved by using the original restore media.

 

Just for completion of the thought, the last generation of G5 XServe shipped with 10.3 Server and can run up to 10.5.

 

So, you should be able to run any PowerPC XServe with 10.4/Tiger and any attendant software. This should include Classic Mode.

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The first models of XServe shipped with OS X Server 10.2.whatever, so you could run retail Panther or Panther Server on them.

 

EveryMac will list every model of XServe and what the min and max OS for them are. In general, the minimum OS will only be achieved by using the original restore media.

 

Just for completion of the thought, the last generation of G5 XServe shipped with 10.3 Server and can run up to 10.5.

 

So, you should be able to run any PowerPC XServe with 10.4/Tiger and any attendant software. This should include Classic Mode.

 I will photograph it, but my Xserve G5 shipped with Tiger. The box lists it as such, and it includes the Tiger media in the box(as I mentioned above a full-size retail box version of PPC Tiger).

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FYI, HP had a "rack to tower" kit they made for their Itanium (YUCK!) servers into workstations.

 

It would make a server into a ZX6000 "tower" case but was loud as sin.

 

I saw a similar home-brew setup for a Sun v445 that someone cooked up and it was .... silly. But if you wanted a T series "workstation" or tower, it was what you had to do.

(they did it with 3/8" plywood and 2x4s for the mod, no, I don't have pics but the googling of the ZX6000 will give you an idea of what looked like)

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HP did something similar back in the HPPA/PARISC days. I have an HP DL380G4 I have sitting vertically as such as well.

 

There was also an HP tower kit for one of the bigger systems and it literally consisted only of some metal tubing that held the machine in a more stable position.

 

 

 I will photograph it, but my Xserve G5 shipped with Tiger. The box lists it as such, and it includes the Tiger media in the box(as I mentioned above a full-size retail box version of PPC Tiger).

 

Apple used to use the term "drop-in upgrade" for machines that originally shipped with one version of Mac OS X, to which they dropped in an upgrade disc to advance the system to the next major version without having to update the retail package of a machine.

 

That last generation of Xserve lasted long enough that I'm totally unsurprised about this. Did it include the in-box copy of 10.3 server as well, or did it not include that at all? (Also for fairness, did you buy it brand new or used?)

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I only got the 10.4(.0) disks. They are CDs, once again in line with the fact that it shipped with a CD-RW and not a DVD drive.

 

I did buy it open box and with some run time on it, but whoever owned it had apparently returned it to the box when it was retired. A lot of the accessories-like the mounting kit-remain unopened. The OS is retail boxed(in a "book" box), but was packaged inside a gray/white "accessory box" characteristic of the era. The outer box fits the retail box exactly, and there is a cut out in the styrofoam for it to fit.

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It would be really neat to see the photos of the way that box came, if you photographed it or have time to pull it out at some point.

 

I wonder if it came with the original 10.3 set or if something did change. That all does sound like a very big change to the retail packaging. Normally with drop-ins, Apple would include all of the original OS media and just include an upgrade or a new installation disk.

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